[Discussion] Soul Worker Story

  • When I asked HOQ about this event (if I remember correctly) he said it's more of a community event where they explain how Soulworker was practically on the verge of shutting down if it weren't for a miracle. It basically more of a story telling for irl side of Soulworker

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  • New background story.



    -- Thoughts --


    I suppose this confirms the theory that Kent is evil, at least in the past. We also get to know that he is definitely not human and the void is connected with different planets as we can see when it says "there are many planets spread to not recognize each other existence." However, we also get to know another important key:


    "Roska's schedule(plan for earth) and Kent's plan were going on a similar line." (This after the 15 years when Kent corrupted Earth or interfere with Roska's schedule for Earth) To me, it seems that both of them are now going towards the same direction, hence "going on a similar line." so it is possible to conclude that Kent and Roska are working together directly or indirectly to accomplish their plans.


    However, lets not forget that the past does not define the present. The video presents Kent as an evil(Which he is) for interrupting Earth's peace and prosperity, but we really do not know his true motives in the present time(15 years post-void).


    Also, it seems that Roska is literally God, the Goddess of planet Earth, and if we go by those terms we can also conclude that Kent is actually a God too because he was also in charge of other planets. I never thought the story would take this approach.


    Edit: Someone already translated. Make sure to support and thanks him/her for the hard work!

    Edit2: Removed First video and added thoughts

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    Edited once, last by Silvery ().

  • Yes, I was very suprised as I saw the video yesterday. It explained so much and a lot of things make sense now.


    Silvery Are you sure, that Kent was in charge of other planets? I understood, that Kent was the god, who was in charge of the home planet of the bashai. A planet with wild lands full of desire and power and a lot of desire energy, but he got bored watching over that. He discovered the earth and tried to corrupt humankind. He is also the creator of the great void.


    But it seems now, that we have a war with three sides now. One side is Rosca, who follows her own schedule for earth and sometimes intefere with humankind's fate (Annihilation of the soulworker rebellion of Tenebris, sending a new souworker (the player) out of the void to the earth, banishing Suzie in the great void and rescuing the player). It seems that we (the player soulworker) are an important marionette/puppet/tool for her, which she is intent on using soon.


    On the other side is Kent, who tries to corrupt us and tries to change us back into a sinworker twice (Grace City and GCC). The player character seems very important for his plan. But it seems, he still stick by his plan.


    The last side seems to be humankind itself - according to the end of the video (Haru standing before the shop window and watching the old tv). But the objectives of the SFL are still not clear except for the official claims and humankind is still splitted in different factions.


    I'm looking forward to new pieces of the background story. :)

    "This was all a cruel angel's thesis from the start..."

  • Yes, I was very suprised as I saw the video yesterday. It explained so much and a lot of things make sense now.


    Silvery Are you sure, that Kent was in charge of other planets? I understood, that Kent was the god, who was in charge of the home planet of the bashai. A planet with wild lands full of desire and power and a lot of desire energy, but he got bored watching over that. He discovered the earth and tried to corrupt humankind. He is also the creator of the great void.


    Typo. Couldn't edit to fix it otherwise it would've been deleted. He was only in charge of one planet and creator of void.


    Also, this might be an indication or foreshadowing where the new character comes from(this is 100% speculation). Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get to see the character this year, so probably around Jan or Feb of next year.

    dddd

  • The last side seems to be humankind itself - according to the end of the video (Haru standing before the shop window and watching the old tv). But the objectives of the SFL are still not clear except for the official claims and humankind is still splitted in different factions.

    I'd also like to emphasize the whole shenanigans with Henryk (the last 'k' is just to be annoying) and the Ned Company. Though I'd focus more on the former rather than the latter.

    Right now he seems pretty much carrying his own agenda, and I seriously believe that his motives are really as simple as "I want more power and be better than anyone else" or something similar.

    However it's quite likely that Henryk is just a mere pawn of someone else, most likely but not certainly Kent, who pushed Henryk into making his henious crimes just for the sake of a bigger plot.

    Where the Ned Company stands in the middle of all of this is not really clear to me but they seem to value profit above all else, with maybe the exception of military power (a.k.a. Ruin Fortress stuff) in some circumstances, but I'd still say that they just act following the simple principle of "do whatever increases gains for us and forget about the rest".

    Just my two cents, kek.

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  • I'm quite late. New contents and update for KR, but most important more story! You guys probably already seen it, but if not here it is:

    Patch note translated by RyuA Iris! Make sure to support!



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    It is quite interesting. In here we see our characters from the last story have aged, so it is safe to assume there was a time skip. Also, is that Aaron(Catherine's father)? He looks way younger than before. We also get to see the introduction of a white-haired girl with a blue sword, possble waifu? Regardless, she seems very important to the story. We also see some mysterious guy with a fedora, *tips fedora* m'lady? He even has a cape...lol.


    Also, I notice something very important, a new crest! This means the introduction of a new faction. The white-haired girl and the fedora guy seems to be part of it. It like seems their main theme is most likely blue. So where do this faction stand? what's their purpose? Considering their clothes and equipment, they seem to be the same as SFL. The white-haired lady has a sword and the fedora guy seems to have a rapier. Also, why would they have swords instead of firearms? could they be soul workers?


    Anyways, good to know we are finally progressing through the story after a long wait! Now we have 3 factions: NED, SFL, and the new one.

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  • Despite this being the successor to the 1st link, it was never linked to it as reference. I think it might be good to link some of the previous discussions of the story here for reference:


    New KR Content?

    HOW DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE THE END OF SOULWORKER'S HISTORY?


    Anyways I thought the whole God thing was hinted. Rosca was, at least to me obviously a deity. Her intervention at the end of Ruin fortress with insane amount of power and the ability to resurrect the player.

    The description for the Aurith gear also hinted at a deity along with the entire Golden Citadel quest.


    Anyway I think Kent/Amad is just a fake name he uses. He used Kent to get friendly with Tenebris. He used Amad with the SFL. but I think his real name is Valea Viilor. The bits we got of him seem to match what Amad/Kent is doing. And I can imagine that as being the deity of the Bashai.


    So here is my current theory of what is happening. Rosca and Valea Viilor are opposing deities fighting for dominion over humanity. Rosca's apparent plan was interrupted by Valea Viilor. However her plan for humanity was not a good end either as the video said "going on a similar line." So while Kent wanted to corrupt humanity, it appear Rosca's plan wasn't much better.


    So for humanity to survive, they must side with neither. The negotiations with the Bashai happened 13 years ago(despite being 10 years earlier in the story) with Ladi as the SFL founder and leader. I do not believe the Bashai assassinated him as thought by the SFL. I do believe that the Bashai legitimately wanted to negotiate.

    For one, Naomin, one of the generals of the Firestream approached Grace city herself at the end of ruin fortress story. I also remember Kurisu said that this war was pointless before his death. Based on these anti-war sentiments, I think the Bashai did not seek war.

    This lead me to believe that kent/Amad/Valea Viilor was the one that killed Ladi. Or rather turned him in to a mutated sinworker. The goal was to provoke a war since neither the humans nor Bashai was seeking war.


    As for NED, I think they are just a 3rd party in this. I think they lean towards the humanity side although they have dealings with the Bashai most likely via Henryk. NED(Godren at least) didn't seem to have known nor support Henryk's activities. They do have a lot of questionable activities but I don't think they intended to oppose SFL. They seem to have only left due to the SFL declaration of war on them. The arguments Rawper made remains very convincing and still have yet to be disproved. So I do think NED is only out for profit and relies on humanity's survival for that.

    As for the leaking of the operation in Grace city, it is likely to be Amad that leaked it to the Bashai. The NED seemed to have not been responsible.


    Henryk probably only wants to get glory and power. Originally, that meant making scientific break through at the cost of innocent lives. I have reason to suspect that might make him the perfect pawn for Valea Viilor.


    I do think NED will probably later join back up with the SFL, in fact I think they might be the link in which Bashai and humanity unite. So far both have been used as pawns by Rosca and Valea Viilor for their own fight.


    Oh... and yes NEW WAIFU! Naran and Nita is old and used after the summer event lol

  • My semester is finally over, so I have some time now.

    Despite this being the successor to the 1st link, it was never linked to it as reference. I think it might be good to link some of the previous discussions of the story here for reference:


    New KR Content?

    HOW DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE THE END OF SOULWORKER'S HISTORY?

    It'd be nice if they could merge those conversation here. Afterall, there are story-related.

    I think Kent and Amad are different translation of his name. However, you do have a good theory though. Perhaps, this "valea Viilor" is his true identity. Also, if I recall correctly, the last boss of GCC is actually Amad(?) I can't seem to find the video or picture to back it up, but I remember he had the same hair, he had a mask however.


    I agree. It seems like their plan are different yet similar; similarly they both end with the same goal but through different methods. At least, that's what "going on a similar line" means to me. However, this makes me think. If they oppose each other, then why isn't Rosca chasing Kent? It seems like she is standing as an spectator than actually opposing Kent who is actively working to achieve his goal.


    "They must side with neither." Here is the line that actually made me think of another theory. Remember the first video in this thread? For reference:

    Here is where it comes in... Rosca stopping Tenebris by killing 99% of the soul workers... SFL opposing Tenebris... But "Why" is never answered. Why would Rosca interfere with Tenebris's goal? Why would the SFL risk their force against the hero whom they value the most? Why almost all Soul Worker sided with Tenebris? Last and most importantly, why would Tenebris, a "Man of Justice," go as far as to slaughter the entire SFL forces to achieve his goal?

    Here is what I think:


    A)Eventually Tenebris got to know all this. Either way he went, mankind would end up corrupted and in chaos. In order to stop it, he created a "Super team" made of soul workers, but how would they "stop" it? It's the question.

    They wouldn't go to such length without a clear goal or method, so hey must have found a way.


    This "way" to "stop" humanity's chaos was somehow infiltrated by the SFL and later Rosca. This is how the war between the SFL and Tenebris broke up. Tenebris's Justice was the salvation of humanity while SFL resisted their cause. Later, this was noticed by Rosca, and she proceed to eliminate the whole squad with the exception of Maverick. Perhaps, the reason why Rosca did this was because Tenebris's plan interfere with her's, otherwise why would she side with the SFL? She left Maverick alive too.


    B)Kent manipulated Tenebris into it. I would assume that Kent told Tenebris the true about Rosca's intention. Maybe he hinted it or explicitly told him. Regardless, he manipulated him in a way that it "interfered" with Rosca's plan. He might've told him about his plan too and convinced him that his way was better than hers, so this could be why Tenebris "sided" with Kent.


    Why would the SFL stand against their cause? I don't know, but I can make two possible reasons:


    1)Since Tenebris plan interfered with Rosca's Plan, they feared the possibility of having to face Rosca; They feared Rosca. If they did not interfere with Tenebris, Rosca might have thought that they "sided" with Tenebris, so she would have to eliminate the entire SFL.

    2)SFL is not as good as we think. "To save humanity" is just a pre-text to hide their true intent.


    Either way, after giving in a second thought, I do not think that Kent acted out of "boredom" when he created the void to corrupt mankind. The way the video presented it, showing humanity's prosperity and achievement as unique and glorious, seemed to hint this. Comparing Humanity's advancement to other worlds, could easily make one envious. So Kent most likely acted out of envy towards humanity. He wanted to "corrupt" humanity in a way that they would not be better than the other worlds or planets. It was this "If I can't have it, then you can't have it either" kind of thing.

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  • I believe that Tenebris was convinced by Kent to incite a rebellion. In GCC, everyone is doing parallels with the soulforcers and soulworker rebellion. And Tenebris himself suspects that the version outside of the void might have fallen for his tricks. Although this isn't confirmed and might be purposely misleading the players to think that.


    As for Tenebris knowing Rosca's plan. I'm not sure. It doesn't seem that Kent's manipulation require logical reasoning to work. It appears more similar to hypnotic suggestion. So Kent doesn't have to tell Tenebris or convince him. It appears the only thing that overcomes it is willpower, reasoning and positive emotions.


    I say willpower because Tenebris in the void resisting the sinforce perfectly fine. He might have succumbed outside because he forgot about its existence. Same with the player character, they overcame it by sheer willpower, moving on from the past

    Amanda's craze was overcame by reasoning. She was listing things and making random claims against Avon before long she started contradicting herself which snapped her out of it.

    Lastly, strong emotions such as love because the instant Miriam saw Tenebris she snapped back to normal.


    Anyway, in a side quest earlier, Bamz was endangered and the player had to rescue him. After that he got a tiny little bit of power. Weak but soulforcer nonetheless. It was stated that life-threatening situations(in the void) may trigger the abilities it seems. Which would make sense why Catherine became a soulforcer too.


    After new update, Casen goes to Bamz to ask about how to become a soulforcer and he mentions this. here are some snippets.

    It seems soulforcers is a product of Valea Viilor and not Rosca according to Bamz. But how reliable he is as a source... I have no idea.

    It goes from 2-3-1. Don't ask why the numbers are jumbled... it's just how it is

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  • I believe that Tenebris was convinced by Kent to incite a rebellion. In GCC, everyone is doing parallels with the soulforcers and soulworker rebellion. And Tenebris himself suspects that the version outside of the void might have fallen for his tricks. Although this isn't confirmed and might be purposely misleading the players to think that.


    As for Tenebris knowing Rosca's plan. I'm not sure. It doesn't seem that Kent's manipulation require logical reasoning to work. It appears more similar to hypnotic suggestion. So Kent doesn't have to tell Tenebris or convince him. It appears the only thing that overcomes it is willpower, reasoning and positive emotions.

    True. Giving it a second thought, it is unlikely for Tenebris to know Rosca's plan. In fact, I don't think anybody knows about Rosca's plan. He was most likely manipulated by Kent, and somehow Rosca had to interfere.


    My conclusion to that came from the fact that Rosca got involved in the fight. It was totally unnecesary for her to get involved, unless it affected her somehow. At least, that is what I think. Think back of the last episode at Ruinfortress. She came there because the Blood Soul worker(Forgot name) did not belong "in this world." She belonged to the void according to her. She only interfered because her presence was dangerous, and I assume that somehow affect her plan or job.


    Regardless, I hope Smilegate or the staff working on the story reveal the reason why Rosca did that.

    Anyway, in a side quest earlier, Bamz was endangered and the player had to rescue him. After that he got a tiny little bit of power. Weak but soulforcer nonetheless. It was stated that life-threatening situations(in the void) may trigger the abilities it seems. Which would make sense why Catherine became a soulforcer too.

    Yea, I also thought of that too, but by looking at our main characters. Except that I don't think it has to be "life-threatening." I think "strong emotions" would fit better. Fear itself is an emotion, and it can be strong. This would explain the cases for most, if not all our characters.

    After new update, Casen goes to Bamz to ask about how to become a soulforcer and he mentions this. here are some snippets.

    It seems soulforcers is a product of Valea Viilor and not Rosca according to Bamz. But how reliable he is as a source... I have no idea.

    It goes from 2-3-1. Don't ask why the numbers are jumbled... it's just how it is

    Yes, that'd make sense. Valea would have to be Kent if so. All this happens inside the void which is the creation of Kent.


    It caught my attention when he said "you are looking for the mercy of Valea too" though. I don't know how you guys perceive it, but I look at it as if they were secretly worshiping him as a God. It is similar to what religious people say "Seeking God's Mercy." In religious context, "Mercy" means "Forgiveness," so these people are looking for Valea's forgiveness to allow them to have a stronger relationship with him. Having a stronger relationship means you are allowed in God's Kingdom and "be saved," or in this case, allowed to have supernatural powers and "be saved" from corruption. The man who created the void and corrupted humanity is being secretly worshiped by them. Quite a twist.

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  • She came there because the Blood Soul worker(Forgot name)

    She was called Suzie Shion.


    It caught my attention when he said "you are looking for the mercy of Valea too" though. I don't know how you guys perceive it, but I look at it as if they were secretly worshiping him as a God. It is similar to what religious people say "Seeking God's Mercy."

    Yeah, seems about right. Also remembered a post that mentioned Valea Viilor in the old story thread:

    On the side quest with Betty, it appears Lupan might have became a sinworker(?)


    In his radio message he said "His power nestles within the body and seizes the mind and organs, the hands and feet. Valea Viilor is merciful and frees us from the tortures of thought by making us as greedy as animals."


    Note how he said greedy as animals. I'm associating greed with desire. Not exactly a synonym but I think there might be a connection. Maybe this 'Valea Viilor' guy creates sinworkers by tapping into your desire and turning it into mindless greed.

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  • Yeah, seems about right. Also remembered a post that mentioned Valea Viilor in the old story thread:

    On the side quest with Betty, it appears Lupan might have became a sinworker(?)


    In his radio message he said "His power nestles within the body and seizes the mind and organs, the hands and feet. Valea Viilor is merciful and frees us from the tortures of thought by making us as greedy as animals."

    Yea. He is certainly worshiped as a god. "merciful and free us from the tortures of thought" is similar to "cleanse us from sin." (Btw I'm not trying to force religion into anyone, there is just a lot of similarities I'd like to point out). I guess they are hinting us that he is an actual god by giving us these references.


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    Also, just noticed that RyuA Iris uploaded Diplus Horizon Story ! here is a link to the first one:

    Much thanks to him/her. Make sure to support.

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  • Can't wait for the new map already. Aaron look so cool. remind me of the officer coat from WW2 Germany.

    Also the right side with the new female character. That emblem. maybe another organization similar to the SFL? I always wondered that SFL can't possibly of been the sole ruling power over the world.

    There must be other factions that is either defending humanity and/or for or against SFL governing their own city zones.

    Maybe pre-void government?

  • Also the right side with the new female character. That emblem. maybe another organization similar to the SFL? I always wondered that SFL can't possibly of been the sole ruling power over the world.

    There must be other factions that is either defending humanity and/or for or against SFL governing their own city zones.

    Maybe pre-void government?

    I actually pointed this before and wondered the same. It seems to be a new faction, but according to RyuA Iris, the city is a military standpoint. I guess they are somehow connected. Maybe a branch of the SFL? Hypothetically speaking, if tenebris did have a group that only consisted of Soul Workers, then they'd be under SFL as a branch since Tenebris was a Soul Worker contracted by the SFL(that would be until the war broke out).

    dddd

  • According to HOQ's translation , the new girl is Aroa, the leader of Reihill Kingdom.


    Also, the mysterious guy we met at the end of the current story line is apparently mad Edgar(?)



  • So new video talking about how the player characters became sinworkers.

    It started with Lily and Haru.


    BTW, based on the current trend of updates it seems each map will get a 'extension.' Rucco with Grasscover, Candus with Dipluce horizon. Grace and ark ship will probably get their own. I'm suspecting that each map will uncover a background for a character there. Grasscover was for Miriam. Candus is probably for Aaron. Grace would probably be for Maverick. Ark ship, not sure but maybe the blood soulworkers?

    This could obviously be not true but I just noticed a slight pattern.

    Based on current trend in new levels, we will probably hit around lv80 after all the map extensions.


    I'm not sure what may come after. Based on how we are kind of close to the climax it seems, I think it is not impossible for the story to be able to be wrapped up by the end of ark ship's new map extension. Assuming no new plot points are introduced. This might take maybe 2 years at current update paces. If the game is still alive then there maybe new additions just to keep it going. Though this is entirely speculations.

  • Your theory is very possible. If I remember correctly, each arc or city story ended in a way that connected to the extension(Except Rocco).

    In candus, it was mentioned about the Souldreg Queen which is most likely connected to Displus Horizon.

    Grace City extension might be related to Henryk.

    Ruin extension is most likely related to blood soulworker whereabouts.

    dddd

  • January Patch Note translated!


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    ---- Thoughts ----

    "Different growth line" and "7th character don't wear school uniform" I guess this confirm our theory, right? She is not human. As stated previously, her pupils and image does not reflect one of a human. It seems we are on point(?) I guess we'll see..

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