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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Stella is less powerfull than lily

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Stella is less powerfull than lily

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And how should i know you are not another main Stella that thinks Lily is super strong after playing her a few hours/days or not playing at all?

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Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Stella is less powerfull than lily

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And how should i know you are not another main Stella that thinks Lily is super strong after playing her a few hours/days or not playing at all?

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Big Plastica --> Tornado = Best DPS

Stella have just a low constant dps.

Lily have a free crit damage and a good soulnova

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Stella is less powerfull than lily

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And how should i know you are not another main Stella that thinks Lily is super strong after playing her a few hours/days or not playing at all?

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Big Plastica --> Tornado = Best DPS

Stella have just a low constant dps.

Lily have a free crit damage and a good soulnova

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omg... again BP. No one argues that she is the best with plastica, but hey! You must HAVE it. For that you must get at least 1 hidden plastica and 2 more 5`* cards with unknown drop rate buying transmitters or farming alts (that are not supposed to be used for this, according to GF and LG). I have it, but there are a lot of players who are not so lucky, especially new ones. And more importanly you must be able to use BP, but that is not possible in D6/WB and future AOV. What's the point of Lily's crit dmg passive and nova if she has only 4 dd skills with 28+ sec cd? Dont tell me about base attack pls.

Stella has more dd skills that aren't bugged and doesn't depend on BP so much. She has 2 exalted skills, heal, sf buff and she is not afraid of walls (hi dogo, sniper etc.). She can be used as good DD and support. Meanwhile Lily is just bad dd with one good combo.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Stella is less powerfull than lily

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Whats wrong with you? Stella has so good options to clear mobs for expample. Also the amour break can be as good or even better than the one of Lily. Like Rory just said, noone is complaining she is very strong with bp.

You want a char with no cons that right ?

yea nuuu thats a pipe dream and a very unrealistic one at that, all characters, no matter the game, have cons. to use the character properly ish to be able to reduce the effect of those cons, and amplify the pros of the character. The cons and pros are what separate a character from the others, which have their own pros and cons, and to balance the game.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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Well, how I said; NotRory isnt wrong about what he/she is saying and complaining about. Every class has ist cons, but really: think about Haru...I barely see any cons about her. She is outstanding the other classes and that in comparision makes every other class weak. You said Haru has SF-Probs? Wtf. I did play every class till Lv.55 and did GC more often and I can say Haru has not ANY SF-Probs if you know how to play her lul. I feel wasted as a Stella if I'm in a Haru-Party. They dont Need SF-Buff like Lilly or Iris does.

AND to clear something NotRory. Im playing both classes the most; Stella/Lilly cuz I love them both to play and cant decide between both. But im not complaining that much like other Lilly-player does. Lilly Ult sux so hard, that I would recommend to delete that skill, cuz wasted af.. but who cares? GF said "we love lilly the most" - yea, and I'm president of Korea, ofc ofc.

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Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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Well, how I said; NotRory isnt wrong about what he/she is saying and complaining about. Every class has ist cons, but really: think about Haru...I barely see any cons about her. She is outstanding the other classes and that in comparision makes every other class weak. You said Haru has SF-Probs? Wtf. I did play every class till Lv.55 and did GC more often and I can say Haru has not ANY SF-Probs if you know how to play her lul. I feel wasted as a Stella if I'm in a Haru-Party. They dont Need SF-Buff like Lilly or Iris does.

AND to clear something NotRory. Im playing both classes the most; Stella/Lilly cuz I love them both to play and cant decide between both. But im not complaining that much like other Lilly-player does. Lilly Ult sux so hard, that I would recommend to delete that skill, cuz wasted af.. but who cares? GF said "we love lilly the most" - yea, and I'm president of Korea, ofc ofc.

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I used the sf problem as an example Earl, and there are cons about haru, but also keep in mind that haru ish also supposed to be the lowest difficulty rating class, so her controls are rather basic. What i was saying NotRory was wrong about was her comment-"Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it." Which ish wrong. A lot of people complain about NA's server issues and instability. Also, as a haru main, i do see her problems, one of the main ones that a stella solves ish her lack of an hp regen, not thats its something that needs to change cuz that would make her op and would unbalance the game, cuz there would be less need for haru to party wif others, though honestly..i only party with others if required or if i get bored buuut, thats when i can use consumables. All i was saying ish NotRory was wrong about them saying that no one complains about the server crashes and such, and by ult do you mean the awake skill or the lvl 42 skill? cuz harus awake skill kinda sucks compared to rain of blades, or even war of blades for that matter. Though, i do disagree wif lily being weaker then stella, im trying to second main a stella and i actually have to find a party to manics in under 12 minutes or so cuz stella has more mob rape skills and worse for boss fights, or so i feel at lvl 31-32. Though i use the term "weaker" ina loose sense cuz i think all the chars are relatively equal in their respective niches cuz ik haru cant top lilly in her crit niche, or if she can its not for very long due to it being a burst. Also when i refer to these things i dont mean wif buffs from akasha.

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So you are talking bout learning the chars? Did you ever played stella? Support...dont make me laugh. She is so powerful in PvE and also PvP it can be a real cancer to fight with.

Haru has SF problems? If I read your text right, you are maning haru. If you would play Haru the right way, she would not have any SF problems. Better take one or two hours in learning the basics of every class.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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Oh my, I have to engage in one of these again. First of all, if you think that Haru has SF problems, despite having an ability that basically gives her infinite SF, well, all I have to say that you are reaching the levels of badness that's a not even meant for a Haru player.

You guys keep throwing out the oh niche cards.

Iris has the downside of having 2k less hp. So literally no downside. Her cooldowns are way too low, her damage numbers are too high. You have to aim, but not aiming skill is a Haru only thing.

Erwin needs Provoke and Attackspeed to abuse. He has half the SF issue Lilly has.

Last two of loli's damaging skills scale with attackspeed, making her ult the highest damage ability in the game. She is only bad on teams that have multiple plasticas and no Lillys. Her paralysis further increase Lilly's high SA break, SF regen gives Lilly, Erwin and Iris the ability to chain Plasticas.

I have no idea about Jin, asides that he is meant to be a pvp class only. His DPS is awful, but his burst as stupid as it gets. He is mainly there to lower the defense of bosses and give everyone ascended. Simply having him on a primal team is a huge benefit.

And now comes the trash. Trash has insane range, in fact her ability to DPS from a range is much higher than any other classes. It's just Haru is easy to play and simple, therefore people who are not good are the ones who usually go for her. Since we live in a world where anyone who is someone has a +7 primal weapon and like 17k crit damage, she brute forces everything. For some reason GF decided to put Ampule Breaks into the shop, nullyfying trash's weakness of not being able to break super armours. "But Cater, Haru has high cooldowns" It hardly matters when your brute force is enough to kill everything in 2 skills and during Plastica your skills will be refreshed anyways.(but still, don't bring trash to primal, they are just worse Lilly or Iris, depending on the Plastica level). Plus sure, if you guys bring up that Haru has high cooldowns, I bring up the fact that Lilly has high cooldowns and two thirds of damage.

And you can bring up that Lilly is the best DPS under Plastica effect. Wow, an item that's hard AF to get and you have to gamble for it, while Erwin can be crazy if you decide to drop 20 euros on the game. And well, when does Plastica DPS even come into picture, only at Primal. Even in GC, people don't even use Plastica anymore, since it's faster to Rita and burst.

"Lilly has high SA break" Let's be honest here, you non-Lilly players probably never realised that 90% of her skills have more SA break than damage. And well, how good is SA break? GC mobs die before their SA breaks, bosses get breaker ampuled. Primal and WB have no SA. Thanks 4 the stat, linegames.

"Lilly has long basic attacks" Screw you too.

"Lilly can fight in the air" Yeah, it's really cool being in the air taking extra damage and only having 1 500% skill.

And you can bring up literally any weakness for Lilly that actually matter. High SF costs, low damage numbers, high cooldowns, long animation(low burst), no range.

And you guys are honestly dummies if you argue that Lilly is not in an insanely bad spot. 90% of her skills got buffed since her advancement came out. Literally no one played Lilly. Even here, big whales switched to Haru after they realised that they can't faceroll with Lilly, then they switched to Iris when they realised that Iris is Haru 2.0.

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[...]and learn your character.

So you are talking bout learning the chars? Did you ever played stella? Support...dont make me laugh. She is so powerful in PvE and also PvP it can be a real cancer to fight with.

Haru has SF problems? If I read your text right, you are maning haru. If you would play Haru the right way, she would not have any SF problems. Better take one or two hours in learning the basics of every class.

Again, i used the sf problem as an example. Yesh i main haru. I also still learning stella atm. Mines only lvl 31-32. I only have sf problems wif haru if i slip up and forget how to play her correctly, usually after playing another char, but its also the biggest complaint among haru players that i know of, so i used it as an example, same wif the more sustained dps. Also the niches were examples as well. If you would rather state the niches for each class, and try to do in in 3-4 words, then be my guest. Also, it takes longer then 1 or 2 hours to learn how to play a character.

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Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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Oh my, I have to engage in one of these again. First of all, if you think that Haru has SF problems, despite having an ability that basically gives her infinite SF, well, all I have to say that you are reaching the levels of badness that's a not even meant for a Haru player.

You guys keep throwing out the oh niche cards.

Iris has the downside of having 2k less hp. So literally no downside. Her cooldowns are way too low, her damage numbers are too high. You have to aim, but not aiming skill is a Haru only thing.

Erwin needs Provoke and Attackspeed to abuse. He has half the SF issue Lilly has.

Last two of loli's damaging skills scale with attackspeed, making her ult the highest damage ability in the game. She is only bad on teams that have multiple plasticas and no Lillys. Her paralysis further increase Lilly's high SA break, SF regen gives Lilly, Erwin and Iris the ability to chain Plasticas.

I have no idea about Jin, asides that he is meant to be a pvp class only. His DPS is awful, but his burst as stupid as it gets. He is mainly there to lower the defense of bosses and give everyone ascended. Simply having him on a primal team is a huge benefit.

And now comes the trash. Trash has insane range, in fact her ability to DPS from a range is much higher than any other classes. It's just Haru is easy to play and simple, therefore people who are not good are the ones who usually go for her. Since we live in a world where anyone who is someone has a +7 primal weapon and like 17k crit damage, she brute forces everything. For some reason GF decided to put Ampule Breaks into the shop, nullyfying trash's weakness of not being able to break super armours. "But Cater, Haru has high cooldowns" It hardly matters when your brute force is enough to kill everything in 2 skills and during Plastica your skills will be refreshed anyways.(but still, don't bring trash to primal, they are just worse Lilly or Iris, depending on the Plastica level). Plus sure, if you guys bring up that Haru has high cooldowns, I bring up the fact that Lilly has high cooldowns and two thirds of damage.

And you can bring up that Lilly is the best DPS under Plastica effect. Wow, an item that's hard AF to get and you have to gamble for it, while Erwin can be crazy if you decide to drop 20 euros on the game. And well, when does Plastica DPS even come into picture, only at Primal. Even in GC, people don't even use Plastica anymore, since it's faster to Rita and burst.

"Lilly has high SA break" Let's be honest here, you non-Lilly players probably never realised that 90% of her skills have more SA break than damage. And well, how good is SA break? GC mobs die before their SA breaks, bosses get breaker ampuled. Primal and WB have no SA. Thanks 4 the stat, linegames.

"Lilly has long basic attacks" Screw you too.

"Lilly can fight in the air" Yeah, it's really cool being in the air taking extra damage and only having 1 500% skill.

And you can bring up literally any weakness for Lilly that actually matter. High SF costs, low damage numbers, high cooldowns, long animation(low burst), no range.

And you guys are honestly dummies if you argue that Lilly is not in an insanely bad spot. 90% of her skills got buffed since her advancement came out. Literally no one played Lilly. Even here, big whales switched to Haru after they realised that they can't faceroll with Lilly, then they switched to Iris when they realised that Iris is Haru 2.0.

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Actually i went for haru based solely on her outfit, though after using her i liked her. Her cooldowns arent high either, some of the skills on stella have longer cooldowns. Also haru has no issues breaking sa, well at least i dont.

"Oh my, I have to engage in one of these again." no, you didnt.

"First of all, if you think that Haru has SF problems, despite having an ability that basically gives her infinite SF" for 10 seconds, and i used it as an example.

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Everyone who is playing main Lily say that she is weak. I do play her aswell and I love her playstyle like it is right now. My main-char is Stella - should I now cry why she is not One Punch Woman? Lily has high armor break and can heal herself up. Why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak. She has her advanctages like other classes do have theirs.

And btw.: who the fk beleaves what GF is promising us? They will tell you everything to keep u like a sheep in a dead game. Sadly we love SW and they abuse that fact for their own profit.

Diablo spin is trash

Death Twister is trash

Scythe Strike is trash

Angel of Death is just heal

Terror Chain and Death Throw are trash mobs skills with no dmg.

Culling Blade has too low dmg, low range and long animation

Carnage is trash without nado, the only skill that can have this armor break.

Battle Howl is just buff.

So what do we have? 4 dmg skills with high cd and sf consumption. Moreover, her ult is trash comparing to others, Triad has long animation u cant cancel and nado is bugged.

Really, "why the fk ppl are crying that she is weak"? I dont understand that either.

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Maybe there are some point in why so many Lily-Player say she and her skills are trash, but its like:

1. Oh, okey Lily seems like not that good class

2. Hmm, they are still complaining. It surely has its reason.

3. Okey Okey, it's a bit much of complaining

4. Wtf they are still complaining?Isnt that enough?

4. Omg. cry more mimimimi.

So, I'm Stella and I'm not crying but I should cry more than a Lily. And dont say "soon Stella gets advancement an so on.." I still wasnt complaining about her before advancement.

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You really think Stella has more problems than Lily? And how can it be "a bit much of complaining" if we are speaking about playable char in SW? It's not some moba game where you can play different character every 30 min. People choose Lily, wasted a lot of time leveling her, wasted resources upgrading her equipment with this rng, so they have the right to speak about it. Your position is just like "yes, they cut off your arms, but dont you think you are crying too much? Just try to play without them!". Who knows, maybe they decided to change advancement release order because of these "crying people"? And at the same time nobody speaks a lot about game crashes and... they dont fix it. Think about it.

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Actually your very wrong. they didnt change the advancement order cuz of "these crying people". Your also blind as hell, because from what ive seen there are more people complaining about the game crashes then lillys advancement, a lot more. Im one of the many people constantly complaining about the fact that failforge neglects the na server, destabilizes the game, and does nothing to actually fix it. Please read other posts before you make a comment and try to use an asinine and false point to back up your own point. All the characters have problems, lilly isnt the only one, though thats the point your pressing. "Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false. This thread was initially about how failforge ish neglecting to fulfill their words with the advancements, not about how they need to make lilly a godlike character that ignores the games balance. If you look at every character without being so focused on making lilly the best character, youll see every single one has a niche. Haru ish burst dps, Lilly ish crit based dps, stella ish support and tankyness, with some sp, erwin ish straight ranged dps, jin ish counter, and tank, wif sustained dps, iris ish ranged dot and partial dps. Just because you main lilly doesnt mean she should be made into the best character, thats just selfish. Dont act like failforge should make up for your faults as a player, get better wif lilly. You dont see me complain about harus sf problems, or that they need to make haru have more sustained dps, because thats not harus niche. Hell when i run gc wif a lilly, things melt, same wif stella, jin, or erwin. I feel over classed cuz of it sometimes, but thats because the people i run with know how to use their characters. Instead of complaining, they focused on learning the ins and outs of their characters. Not to mention one of the lillys i run wif has like 29k hp, and yet didnt die. Stop complaining and tooting the "make lilly the best character" horn, and learn your character. Also, just so we are clear, im speaking to you NotRory.

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""Lilly is the worst character, please make her godly", thats what your point is in a nut shell, and its thoughtless, pointless, and false". Do u have problems with reading? Show me where i asked for this. Really, show me! Or in your mind "make Lily as good as other chars" = "make her godly"?

Lily is crit base dps? Did you read what i wrote? She has 4 bad or BUGGED skills that can deal dmg with this crit stats. It doesnt work as you think. She doesnt deal +100500 dmg with base attack just because of this crits passives. It's not balanced. Lily with base attack but high crit deal much less dmg than, for example, Erwin and Iris with low cd dd skills. So who needs this niche?

And such an irony, you think Haru has SF problems and ask us to learn our char. And what about 29k hp Lily? What's the point of it? We are speaking about her performance, not survivability. Or for you surviving with 29k is something incredible? Yes, all the characters have problems, but difference is that Lily's problems just ruin her.

I see only complains about NA server. There are a few threads about crashes, but they have 0-1 replies and nobody pays attention. A few month ago we had thread about lily's redesign made by yagu, where a lot of people left their opinions about Lily's strengh.

Ah, almost forgot... Get better as Haru. It's a shame, dude.

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