Changes Need to Happen

Ghosten · Jan 20th 2019

I’m just going to jump right into this. This game needs to implement new features or else it will die. People will either move to the private server, KR or stop playing completely.

Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.
Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished for using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon that we can farm for (at least) one million dzenai per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.
Fix RNG. It is nearly impossible to get anything of value within a reasonable time span. I have done Primal at least 100 times. I couldn't get a single shoulder drop to complete my set (until very recently) and this is with multiple buffs (gold/silver VIP, Gronco). I don't mind working for things in games; it makes stuff rewarding and competitive. The problem is that players are giving up! If you don't reward players, they will stop playing. Enough said.
Lag, bugs and glitches need to be fixed, especially for primal. It is extremely unfair for players to die when they shouldn’t. Golden Citadel can take up to a minute to load. These are things to be ironed out ASAP. I understand that many of the glitches are in KR, but some of the bugs are GF exclusive.
Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game. Especially the appearance market. If you want to charge people $40+ for an outfit, at least let them see what it will look like on their character first. Sometimes pictures just don't suffice.
Make it possible to trade, sell and discard brooches. This is extremely overdue and can easily be fixed. It is so aggravating having to put brooches on an article of clothing, trade it, and then trade it back. Implementing this super easy feature would make things immensely better.

Content is obviously something else. I know many Korean MMOs that undergo a North America implementation are sometimes halted by the original developers in regards to content. Regardless, things can still be changed and they need to be changed greatly. Gameforge, please start listening to the players. We're the ones keeping this game alive.

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• Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.

I agree some reward on wheel was a bit ridiculous like HP kit and not usefull at all.

( Cause inflation can you explain ? )

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• Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished from using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon we can farm for 1m per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.

Hum ???

If you dont know Gold Seller using hack for get dzenais if people get more DZ GS just give more DZ for the same price and that dont reduce the market place ( you mean for OutFit ).

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• Fix RNG. It is nearly impossible to get anything of value within a reasonable time span.

Values = Rarity

RNG make Rarity

Long time spend without RNG make Rarity

In all case you need to spend time to get anything of value if you dont make long time is not something valuable.

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• Lag, bugs and glitches need to be fixed, especially for primal. It is extremely unfair for players to die when they shouldn’t. Golden Citadel can take up to a minute to load. These things to be ironed out ASAP.

That gonna take time because GF not making the game and we are far from korean update LionGame will not update old version of this game because is complicated.

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• Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game.

Is on future update ( maybe not ) be realy patient.

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• Make it possible to trade, sell and discard brooches. This is extremely overdue and can easily be fixed.

Is possible to trade and discrad but i know what you mean and they talk about past year.

Rewrite · Jan 20th 2019

Quote from Ghosten

I’m just going to jump right into this. This game needs to implement new features or else it will die. People will either move to the private server, KR or stop completely.

• Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.

• Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished from using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon we can farm for 1m per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.

• Fix RNG. It is nearly impossible to get anything of value within a reasonable time span.

• Lag, bugs and glitches need to be fixed, especially for primal. It is extremely unfair for players to die when they shouldn’t. Golden Citadel can take up to a minute to load. These things to be ironed out ASAP.

• Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game.

• Make it possible to trade, sell and discard brooches. This is extremely overdue and can easily be fixed.

Content is obviously something else, but Liongames could always prevent the act of implementing it all. Regardless, things can still be changed and they need to be changed greatly.

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hey, I am doing this only out of goodwill because seeing you trying so hard to improve this game reminds me of few former players and my past self. Your suggestions are all true that's why I liked it, but Failforge is not even looking at this. You are literally speaking against a wall. unfortunately as long as this game is in gameforge's hands (or the retards that are working in the SW department) there is a very high probability that this game will die.

I myself started to play on BSW. Why I am supporting a private server? Simply because I have more fun there. Less lags less scam more content. That's reasonable enough also I am lagging on KR that's why I can't play there.

Ghosten · Jan 20th 2019

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• Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.

I agree some reward on wheel was a bit ridiculous like HP kit and not usefull at all.

( Cause inflation can you explain ? )

Quote from Ghosten

• Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished from using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon we can farm for 1m per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.

Hum ???

If you dont know Gold Seller using hack for get dzenais if people get more DZ GS just give more DZ for the same price and that dont reduce the market place ( you mean for OutFit ).

Quote from Ghosten

• Fix RNG. It is nearly impossible to get anything of value within a reasonable time span.

Values = Rarity

RNG make Rarity

Long time spend without RNG make Rarity

In all case you need to spend time to get anything of value if you dont make long time is not something valuable.

Quote from Ghosten

• Lag, bugs and glitches need to be fixed, especially for primal. It is extremely unfair for players to die when they shouldn’t. Golden Citadel can take up to a minute to load. These things to be ironed out ASAP.

That gonna take time because GF not making the game and we are far from korean update LionGame will not update old version of this game because is complicated.

Quote from Ghosten

• Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game.

Is on future update ( maybe not ) be realy patient.

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• Make it possible to trade, sell and discard brooches. This is extremely overdue and can easily be fixed.

Is possible to trade and discrad but i know what you mean and they talk about past year.

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Ghosten · Jan 20th 2019

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I’m just going to jump right into this. This game needs to implement new features or else it will die. People will either move to the private server, KR or stop completely.

• Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.

• Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished from using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon we can farm for 1m per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.

• Fix RNG. It is nearly impossible to get anything of value within a reasonable time span.

• Lag, bugs and glitches need to be fixed, especially for primal. It is extremely unfair for players to die when they shouldn’t. Golden Citadel can take up to a minute to load. These things to be ironed out ASAP.

• Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game.

• Make it possible to trade, sell and discard brooches. This is extremely overdue and can easily be fixed.

Content is obviously something else, but Liongames could always prevent the act of implementing it all. Regardless, things can still be changed and they need to be changed greatly.

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hey, I am doing this only out of goodwill because seeing you trying so hard to improve this game reminds me of few former players and my past self. Your suggestions are all true that's why I liked it, but Failforge is not even looking at this. You are literally speaking against a wall. unfortunately as long as this game is in gameforge's hands (or the retards that are working in the SW department) there is a very high probability that this game will die.

I myself started to play on BSW. Why I am supporting a private server? Simply because I have more fun there. Less lags less scam more content. That's reasonable enough also I am lagging on KR that's why I can't play there.

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I understand what you mean. I don't want to give up because I love this game so much, but if things don't change I'm going to have to pack up my stuff and move to another server. I want this game to thrive.

AltairLoliew · Jan 21st 2019

Let us pray that this will be read by someone working in GF.

Fairlyn · Jan 21st 2019

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Let us pray that this will be read by someone working in GF.

i love your optimism
but let's be realist, no one from gf cares about this forum, and less about this thread

Kallishya · Jan 21st 2019

Please, unless you suggest a new skin or a new cash shop item your opinion does not count for them.

AltairLoliew · Jan 22nd 2019

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Let us pray that this will be read by someone working in GF.

i love your optimism
but let's be realist, no one from gf cares about this forum, and less about this thread

Dreaming is free

gamerman88 · Jan 22nd 2019

what thay need to do for me that is is increase the exp rate or something because i got specs of exp for every run. i dont want to do 100 runs of the same max level duengen that i can go to

Silvery · Jan 23rd 2019

Quote from Ghosten

Implement KR UI. Gives us new UI, new Akasha looks, new gear and stat looks, and implement the market that lets us view character looks in-game. Especially the appearance market. If you want to charge people $40+ for an outfit, at least let them see what it will look like on their character first. Sometimes pictures just don't suffice.

That probably won't come until we get other updates, but like previously mentioned by another player, your suggestions are in vain. Many(Literally) has been made and wasted. The lack of communication between the publisher and its fanbase is surreal.

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Give us a place to farm dzenai. We’re punished for using a gold seller, yet there’s no way to make in-game currency that competes with the high prices of the market. Give us a dungeon that we can farm for (at least) one million dzenai per run. That will seriously benefit everyone and reduce the terrible market prices.

I've addressed this many times previously. The Economy issue, the inflation. And believe me when I say this -- doing that won't do much. If anything it will worsen it by increasing the market prices. To fix the economy issue (more than it already is) you have address all aspects of it including the player interactions with the market. In other words, what you suggested will not do much to"normalize" the economy.

Another thing that people fail to consider is that is not just about gold sellers, but also the players. I'm not talking about those who buy from gold sellers, but those who try to "control" the economy for the sake of their profit. You have to understand that in an economy, sellers and buyers only seek for their self-interest; they will not come together to establish an efficient economy.

There are too many things to address. I don't even think they have a clue on how to fix it. Even if they did, they might be too worried about the negative reactions from the fanbase.

I'm not pessimistic but rather realistic. The suggesting method simply does not work when communicating with a deaf publisher. They have the options, but they chose to remain silent.

scare · Jan 23rd 2019

@Edit by Albus: If you want to criticize the administration, send a ticket.

what a surprise that they remove this so no one else can read thee truth about how Gameforge deal behind the gates

Silvery · Jan 23rd 2019

Also, besides of what I've already mentioned, we should give credit where it's due. The prices of a few things such as WUC has gone down significantly. Whether that is because the demand has decreased or because of Gameforge's event does not matter. Fact is that, they are at least trying to address it.

Either way, like I said previously, this is a "temporary solution." As soon as new gear comes up it will skyrocket as if the events were in vain.

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Shop prices must be lowered. $40 for an in-game costume is outrageous. $10 per Grutin wheel spin for something we will probably get with much lesser value? Unfair and causes inflation.

For some reason I overlooked some of your points and let me tell you they are misleading. First of all this does not causes inflation. It is also fair. Everyone has the same opportunity regardless of how you do it. This costume is solely for luxury and does not provide any unfair advantage to those who don't have it. I understand that it is not reasonable to charge $40 for an in-game costume, but like any other firm, they are prioritizing profit over value. They also need money to continue publishing the game.

There are better ways to do this, but this is the way they chose to do it. If you do not like it then simply do not purchase it. The best way for players to tell the publisher that this is a terribly bad idea is to not buy any of it. They will notice, believe me. Nobody is dumb enough to implement something that will cause them to lose profit, or at least, I hope nobody is.

Caribbeans · Jan 24th 2019

Much like everyone else says GF/SlowForge/FailForge has not been delivering to improve the game, they already seem to have no schedule as to what they are doing, Advancements are being delayed so far. Events are trash, the cash shop is full of loot boxes n now a fking wheel of fortune to get costumes that could have well been a limited edition set for soulcash.

Notice how the rather better looking design costume sets are in loot boxes n the Wheel...crazy.

Although GF has been terrible I want to put some blame on Lion Games as well since apparently GF has to follow their rules and they gotta approve GF to update the game.

However like OP said bugs/lag etc are still here ever since Lilly's advancement the lag has been wonky fps drops insane sht. like FFS Gameforge fix the fking active Akaskas FFS

So from what I can see with the state of the game.....

The game will die if nothing is done, we are too far outdated compared to KR at 1 point we have to be close to KR in updates but for some reason we still dont even have all advancements..

I donated $30 to SW recently steam cash through a gift card just to show that I enjoyed the game at the obt and early launch....but its sad that this game had lots of potential thought this game was gonna last for a good couple years but idk if this game will even make it at the end of 2019....

Tokonome · Jan 24th 2019

give our region all available advancements asap (or in one big patch) will be a good starting approach

NEXT, bring over KR's quality of life enhancements (custom UI, new AR cards, etc)

3RD, reduce fortune wheel/loot box cosmetics appearance

4TH, release new content at normal pace

AltairLoliew · Jan 24th 2019

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Much like everyone else says GF/SlowForge/FailForge has not been delivering to improve the game, they already seem to have no schedule as to what they are doing, Advancements are being delayed so far. Events are trash, the cash shop is full of loot boxes n now a fking wheel of fortune to get costumes that could have well been a limited edition set for soulcash.

Notice how the rather better looking design costume sets are in loot boxes n the Wheel...crazy.

Although GF has been terrible I want to put some blame on Lion Games as well since apparently GF has to follow their rules and they gotta approve GF to update the game.

However like OP said bugs/lag etc are still here ever since Lilly's advancement the lag has been wonky fps drops insane sht. like FFS Gameforge fix the fking active Akaskas FFS

So from what I can see with the state of the game.....

The game will die if nothing is done, we are too far outdated compared to KR at 1 point we have to be close to KR in updates but for some reason we still dont even have all advancements..

I donated $30 to SW recently steam cash through a gift card just to show that I enjoyed the game at the obt and early launch....but its sad that this game had lots of potential thought this game was gonna last for a good couple years but idk if this game will even make it at the end of 2019....

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Of course, we're on par with KR in premium store XD

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