Meanwhile a certain other server has been growing in population
honestly only reason I dont feel like going on BSW is cause i dont wanna go through all that sht again XD
Same thing I felt like, turns out I managed to catch up on over 1000 hours on GFSW in about a week or two xD
I loved leveling it was best part of soulworker for me. The only time it got tedious was at Ruin Fortress. Past level 55 it is slow as well but I didn't care, since you can do all raid content at 55 already.
personally, the only time i find it hard to level is from lv59 to lv60
after finishing storyline, i arrived at lv59 50%, so i had to grind the rest (i soloed)
i love Dreadful Echo, Maneating Garden, and Dead Meat Factory manic ep.4
both dun have so many monsters, it is very fun to pulverize them 
i'm also glad Slowforge has yet to release AoV
i need to farm more resources (aetharites, etc) in order to be ready to upgrade AoV gear
i do want Skyclock Palace or Innocent Daydream soon!!
Same thing I felt like, turns out I managed to catch up on over 1000 hours on GFSW in about a week or two xD
when u put it like that I might convince myself to move on to BSW from that tbh, so u got all the best gear quickly as well?
Same thing I felt like, turns out I managed to catch up on over 1000 hours on GFSW in about a week or two xD
when u put it like that I might convince myself to move on to BSW from that tbh, so u got all the best gear quickly as well?
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I managed to get full primal gear + jewel and weapon in a week or two and right after move straight to AoV pretty much. Most the stuff is pretty much there
I too managed to get full primal gear + jewel in a week in the official Soul Worker. You at least get 3 drops in primal from 10 runs unless you are really unlucky. Of course, that is another thing if you can't find a party. WUCs cost 1m in the market right now, how hard is it to get 1m? They even drop from GC and primal, their drop rate is not bad.
In the recent event, they were literally giving aurith gear, ECs, and armor restorers away. Even without the event, you can get aurith pretty easily and be ready to do primal.
BSW
Just go and stay there then. A server even deader than the official ones AND full of BRs.
People complain about content but you'll never be satisfied. Even if we had the exact same content as in Korea you'll still be bitching about "what's next? where's new content? i need new content now".
I also love all the spammed bullshit reviews on steam about how SW is p2w and how BSW fixes everything. Absolute retardation...
Complain about the fortune wheel instead because that's the only real issue of GFSW compared to BSW.
Aren't you guys defending gfsw too much? Both of them have their pros and cons. Gameforge has the higher population, more the bsw, but it's slowly dying because of lack of content and RNG. with upgrading and with their freaking wheel. (srsly im sure theres a better way to earn more money then the wheel, instead of trying to get a wad of cash at once, they should put outfits at reasonable prices, that way people will be more inclined to buy them) And the market is inflated as frick. I've heard that bsw has x2 or x3 exp rate and increased drop rates, so its easier, plus chii aruil or whatever will be released there earlier as well, so might as well go there to play her, since gf will probably take a long time. (I mean look at the adv releases. they're trying to cash in as much as possible by making people wait)
Aren't you guys defending gfsw too much?
I have mentioned many times the kind of crap they do, but don't expand on it because that clearly won't improve the situation. We all know gameforge is incredibly bad at managing games. It is a well known fact, why the heck would I beat it more than it already is? but these people in here are worse than them.
Instead of minding their own business or providing reasonable feedback, they come here to complain, literally most of the thread, about things that have already been mentioned. Instead of actually quitting, they start comparing to said server as if they were hired for advertisement. All these people do is harm by scaring the new players with their complains and negativity.
I don't know even know the heck we got to this point considering the thread is NOT about this topic. Right, someone started to compare the population to said server for some irrelevant reason.
Display MoreAren't you guys defending gfsw too much?
I have mentioned many times the kind of crap they do, but don't expand on it because that clearly won't improve the situation. We all know gameforge is incredibly bad at managing games. It is a well known fact, why the heck would I beat it more than it already is? but these people in here are worse than them.
Instead of minding their own business or providing reasonable feedback, they come here to complain, literally most of the thread, about things that have already been mentioned. Instead of actually quitting, they start comparing to said server as if they were hired for advertisement. All these people do is harm by scaring the new players with their complains and negativity.
I don't know even know the heck we got to this point considering the thread is NOT about this topic. Right, someone started to compare the population to said server for some irrelevant reason.
They not scaring ppl they just tell the true.
This game is like mobil gatcha game.
you can play it or not is your choice but the true is scaring and if new player dont want to go on this game i can understand.
Now some ppl have like 50 billions and new player have like 50 millions tell me that was not scaring for the future.
New players are just market slave farming item for old billionaire players.
Aren't you guys defending gfsw too much?
I have mentioned many times the kind of crap they do, but don't expand on it because that
Instead of minding their own business or providing reasonable feedback, they come here to complain, literally most of the thread, about things that have already been mentioned. Instead of actually quitting, they start comparing to said server as if they were hired for advertisement. All these people do is harm by scaring the new players with their complains and negativity.
Well, think about it. since all of us that played gfsw might be a bit biased. but imagine u are a new player looking for a new mmo to play. Mmo's take up time. You want to find a good mmo to invest time into. Oh, and the market is a mess too. Now after seeing all this why would someone want to join, when it sounds like a grind, and is a grind? like, too much of a grind? (i know there are other more grindy mmos out there)
I mean of course all of us wish that there were more players, but the game is dying, is dead in fact. Most of the population consists of endgame players that invested too much time into this and might've even spent real money of this game. In short, soulworker gf can't be saved, at least the way gameforge is going.
Yes they tried to release events that would stabilize the market. haha no bloody poor attempt at that. Reduced the price of EC's and makes fashion or usefull game items even MORE of a grind if u want to buy something of the market. That event was a gold sink yes, but benefited players with too much money too much, and now they have a unbelievable amount of ec's and other stuff. Just wait a few months for the prices to go up and BOOM they will be even more richer (it went from 55m to 80m, so I don't think ec's will even go up to 300m again. ever)
Honestly I wouldn't blame a new player if they went and played bsw. it has its flaws yes, but from what i heard its mostly fitted for casual players ig. Plus they have more content. The way gfsw has went downhill is depressing, and yes they r trying to fix it now, kind of. (not really)
But who was surprised. It was gameforge after all.
They not scaring ppl they just tell the true.
There's no truth in there. Just misinformation because it's the only way for them to attract people to their dead servers full of rejects who can't play on NA/EU.
Gacha sucks, but it has nothing to do with your ghetto BR private server. Go play there if you want but stop shilling it everywhere by spreading misinformation.
They not scaring ppl they just tell the true.
There's no truth in there. Just misinformation because it's the only way for them to attract people to their dead servers full of rejects who can't play on NA/EU.
Gacha sucks, but it has nothing to do with your ghetto BR private server. Go play there if you want but stop shilling it everywhere by spreading misinformation.
GFSW is not dead ?
I not defend BSW i dont play on it but tell GFSW is a good one is a lie.
GFSW is not dead ?
The game has a very small population but it's been stable for over 4 months. You can check steam stats yourself, and that won't even include native client players. So all this talk about how the game is dead with no possibility recovery is just bs. Pure misinformation.
And I'm not even defending GF, I have my own gripes with the game itself and GF.
What's the point of even starting on GF servers as a new player.
You have to beat the same stage over and over 20, 30, 40 times just to level up once.
And to what, you arrive at a spot with the "fixed" market where every farmable thing is worthless at this point and anyone who just doesn't have a million gold is screwed and won't be able to afford anything.
Even if you want a decent gear, GF just shows you a huge middle finger, I got +9 weapons in 20-40 rolls on other servers, GF denied me a +8 in 300 rolls. You just don't get to a point where you finish your gear,, grind is not rewarded.
You can't even get fashion. Greedy company thinks 15 euros is not good enough for a fashion with emote.
Literally no reason to play this game. They just deny everything.
It's stable because GF making big event.
People is online but we have nothing to do except speaking with friend and try to get a SA 17% on primal
I just telling how bad is to be a new player on GFSW.
In fact is better to play on Japan or Korea.
What's the point
Yeah what's the point of playing the game right? We want everything instantly with zero investment and then... then what? Then we whine about having nothing to do, as per usual.
Gacha sucks, RNG sucks, that's a given, but gacha and RNG affect everyone equally. And inflation is a problem of the game itself, it doesn't have much to do with GF, even though they did try and manage to fix the pricing of important progression items like upgrade chips and energy converters.
nothing to do except
That's how it is. Like I said, even if we had the same content as in Korea you'll still be saying how there's nothing to do.
Imagine if we get Chii on the 25. A week later you'll all be here crying about how your Chii is already level 60 full Primal and how you have nothing to do and how everything sucks.
Delaying content on purpose sucks too, but we can't know how much is it done on purpose (I know deep down that it's half on purpose, half because of lack of manpower). Still, it's hardly an argument.
And inflation is a problem of the game itself, it doesn't have much to do with GF
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That's how it is. Like I said, even if we had the same content as in Korea you'll still be saying how there's nothing to do.
Imagine if we get Chii on the 25. A week later you'll all be here crying about how your Chii is already level 60 full Primal and how you have nothing to do and how everything sucks.
Delaying content on purpose sucks too, but we can't know how much is it done on purpose (I know deep down that it's half on purpose, half because of lack of manpower). Still, it's hardly an argument.
Before chrismas event we have EC farming to buy stuff and P2W item.
Now you can do nothing.
I never complaning about update except for trolling but now we realy can do nothing valuable.
Is just borring to see 1 TERA ASSASIN broch at 5billions went the most valuable item is EC at 40 millions
i not talking about content is the whole game.
I'll toss my 2 cents...
The game isn't all that grindy. I'm not a hardcore player, as in I rarely used up my base 200 energy when grinding from lv1 to 55 on my first character. But I still got to max level in less than a month. Month sounds long? I don't think so. Considering the repetitiveness of the endgame, 1 month of grind is probably the highlight as there's a well defined goal. There's also story to follow which is what motivated me personally.
The endgame grind is what is horrible. I learned nothing going from 1 to 55. I had to read guides and test things myself before I learned the upgrading system, the akasha and endgame gears. The main issue was the annoying grind for the various set required to get the end game stuff(which I haven't gotten)
Getting individual pieces isn't super hard, a bit of grind but I expect that. It's the randomized stats that is a torture to obtain.
BUT overall, this grind is NOTHING. IDK if its ok to name games here, so I won't... but I played several old MMORPGs and several more recent games and they all are more grindy than SW. The old games can take you a year and you still won't be done grinding. One particular one cause you to lose 5% exp every time you die to mobs.
Another PVP orientated naval game have a massively steep learning curve with long grinds.
The newer games are not necessarily grindy in terms of time but are very tedious and not new player friendly at higher levels, so you are stuck at lower tier stuff until you gitgud, which takes time. You can technically reach max level in a week, but you'll get owned by everyone unless you are naturally that good.
And every single game I'm thinking of is popular now or was popular in its heyday. I'm not opposed of lower EXP if it means more players will play but I don't personally feel that's the issue.
You all rushed to a non existent end game to then get bored.
I get the appeal of getting to max lvl and getting the best gear to keep up with everyone else, but also, enjoy the process of levelling up and interacting with other players. its a mmo after all. I had so much fun when i played thru the game with my first char. there were less people at endgame, so i could party up with multiple people multiple times as early as candus city. Second time playing thru with my stella, the game was more dead, i didnt even find a party until ruin fortress acheron.
About the upgrading, i wish the removed the 25/25 limit, but of course they won't. how else would they get money?
