Let the babies begin crying.
Constructive addition to the discussion. thanks mate 
The Stamina Issue (merged topics)
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i was playing on the korean server but didnt had any problems with stamina...
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Constructive addition to the discussion. thanks mate
So is your constant hostility to the stamina issue. There were like 4 post stating that it isn't a problem yet you come out again with excuses why it should be disabled. There will never be a game that will cater to the hardcore grinding players. They run through content with the speed no company is able to create so either play 2 games do multi char or get a life.
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Played quite a bit on the JP servers and I could play as much as I wanted without running into stamina issues. Unless GF makes changes to stamina I don't see any real issue.
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I wish its just cosmetics in the cash shop.. e.e
I pray too !
I pray for you changingthat avatar omg that face creep me out
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I played JP server a long time and never had a problem with stamina, you can be sure that it is not something that will disrupt your game.
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I have no idea why they make stamina in games in the first place...I mean don't you want us to keep on playing longer? What will be the point of limiting our play time?
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stamia is stupid in any game. it doesn't help in anyway. and it wont make game content come out faster or anything. the depend on the maker. NA/EU dont need or want it in general. only way it is ok. is if what some of you said. that you can play all day and still have stamia. that one thing and ok in my eyes. but then what the pint of stamia then? just remove it. and if not and can only play 1-2hours a day. then it is pointless and will die out just like other stamia games. like closers. making alts is not a fix. it is an excuse.
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stamia is stupid in any game. it doesn't help in anyway. and it wont make game content come out faster or anything. the depend on the maker. NA/EU dont need or want it in general. only way it is ok. is if what some of you said. that you can play all day and still have stamia. that one thing and ok in my eyes. but then what the pint of stamia then? just remove it. and if not and can only play 1-2hours a day. then it is pointless and will die out just like other stamia games. like closers. making alts is not a fix. it is an excuse.
agree with this !
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
with ease, I never had problem in JP because most DGs have input limit so anyway you can not spamming DG, initially you get level fast and it does a lot of different DGs because it is in the UP phase fast so you spend a little more stamina than you would normally use but as you go up the level you get less DGs to do (unless you keep doing it the low level DGs), I always play a lot and I was never much to create secondary char's and I never ran out of stamina in JP
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
how do you know that you can swap gear around? i havnt seen any reason to assume thats the case.
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
that just a stupid thing in general. no one would do that or at least 99% wouldn't
goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
with ease, I never had problem in JP because most DGs have input limit so anyway you can not spamming DG, initially you get level fast and it does a lot of different DGs because it is in the UP phase fast so you spend a little more stamina than you would normally use but as you go up the level you get less DGs to do (unless you keep doing it the low level DGs), I always play a lot and I was never much to create secondary char's and I never ran out of stamina in JP
hmm we'll see and how long did you play a day?
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
how do you know that you can swap gear around? i havnt seen any reason to assume thats the case.
It's been known for weeks, and confirmed by GF CM.
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
One of the reasons for not wanting Alts is that we dont want to replay content we already did.. another is that we want to progress in the game with our main. Making alts of the same class does not in any way fix this.. it only allows us to replay the exact same thing we just played through.. and when we catch up our fatigue is at 0 again.
I have played the game on different servers with some friends and in end game the fatigue lasted for about an hour depending on what raids you did. It made the game feel more like a mobile game than an action mmo. you logged in and did your daily runs and then did something else... made us loose investment in the game and move on to other stuff.
Closers run on the same premis when it comes to Fatigue system and it was super hyped but the Fatigue really pissed off the majority of the player base and it crashed and burned thanks to that.. I respect that you dont find a problem with the Fatigue and that you dont mind using alts.. But you need to respect that alot of players wont share your view on it. And if the Fatigue system would dissapear it wouldent do anything for your enjoyment of the game (I think) but for it to remain ruins the enjoyment for alot of people.
Having a system you have to work around with alts and switching around gear etc is not good game design, it is not fun, it does not improve the game experience for anyone and it is in no way required for the game to succeed.. It is the games biggest flaw, and as such it should be looked at by the develepers or the game will fall from grace quite fast i think.
I honestly dont understand why ppl are so adamant about defending the fatigue system. I understand that it's not a problem for some ppl and they arent bothered by it and thats fine.. but what do you think would get worse by removing it? why do you want to keep it? how would the game be worse with it removed?
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goes by me I guarantee that the stamina will not disturb anything in your game play
could i play all day? like on one character.
You know, if you had time to play all day on one character, then you'll certainly have time to level up multiple of the same class, then simply use the banksharing feature to swap all the gear to another alt before continuing playing. It's a very minor inconvenience and whenever I see people making the excuse that "I don't want alts", it sounds like a very bad excuse considering how easy it would be for them to spend some more time leveling alts for a week (that's all it takes to reach level cap), then use the bank sharing feature to bypass the FP limits, especially since they'd be willing to spend much time playing on 1 character anyway if they could, so spending that time instead on leveling alts for a week shouldn't be a problem for them, right?
how do you know that you can swap gear around? i havnt seen any reason to assume thats the case.
It's been known for weeks, and confirmed by GF CM.
could ya maybe get me a link? id love to see honestly.
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stamina system really? this game is already dead before it comes out then its 2018 for christ sakes this is not a mobile game last i checked when will companies wake up if you want the game to do well you would remove it plain and simple
kritika KR had the same thing but u know what they did for NA? turned that depleting stamina into extra EXP till it ran out that was smart
if companies think its a good idea to limit gametime/play then they should not be running a game
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I feel as though the Open Beta will give GameForge a chance to review overall how stamina will affect the players. There are games that still run Stamina, i.e DFO / Dragon's Nest / Elsword however there are ways that they will give boosts so it could be a possiblity. From my understanding Stamina / Fatigue has been frowned upon from the Western Region in MMORPGs.
All in all, I would wait till OB and see how it plays out.
