Where is our transparency?

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    I still need to know if they are gonna wipe or not. = ,=


    I hate how there is no definite answer.


    Putting in all this effort and time only to have it wasted in the end. = w=....

    honestly i don't care if they wipe or not unless they're not going to give stuff that they may ut out in a premium store. gives me time to test out the game and find easier ways to deal with bosses and stuff.

    Quote from Zarozian

    I still need to know if they are gonna wipe or not. = ,=


    I hate how there is no definite answer.


    Putting in all this effort and time only to have it wasted in the end. = w=....

    1. Expect it that there will be a wipe when there is no clear notice.
    2. You can always wait till official launch to investing time+effort. Beta is unfortunately what it is, beta. :shrug:

    Well people are telling me rumors about how GameForge is infamous for their wipes.


    I am like... wondering why they operate like that. = w=

    They really need more transparency about these kinds of things, so I'd rather a definite answer, especially for the part about the wipe and a explanatory answer for what exactly the EXP gain is.


    Cause from what I heard, the people who reached level 30 already, did so because the cash shop was working for them and they bought a lot of S+ Vitamins and Mats or something like that.



    As for me I don't really care for the progress of others or the fact that they are ahead of the curve, what I don't want however, is for my progress to be erased or my time to be wasted. =/

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    They really need more transparency about these kinds of things, so I'd rather a definite answer, especially for the part about the wipe and a explanatory answer for what exactly the EXP gain is.


    Cause from what I heard, the people who reached level 30 already, did so because the cash shop was working for them and they bought a lot of S+ Vitamins and Mats or something like that.

    Well the exp problem was that some people got to high levels really fast so you know that means right high levels = wipe

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    Quote from Zarozian

    They really need more transparency about these kinds of things, so I'd rather a definite answer, especially for the part about the wipe and a explanatory answer for what exactly the EXP gain is.


    Cause from what I heard, the people who reached level 30 already, did so because the cash shop was working for them and they bought a lot of S+ Vitamins and Mats or something like that.

    Well the exp problem was that some people got to high levels really fast so you know that means right high levels = wipe

    Then they should announce it already, instead of waiting till the last second.

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    Quote from Zarozian

    They really need more transparency about these kinds of things, so I'd rather a definite answer, especially for the part about the wipe and a explanatory answer for what exactly the EXP gain is.


    Cause from what I heard, the people who reached level 30 already, did so because the cash shop was working for them and they bought a lot of S+ Vitamins and Mats or something like that.

    Well the exp problem was that some people got to high levels really fast so you know that means right high levels = wipe

    Then they should announce it already, instead of waiting till the last second.

    If they don’t know, they don’t know. If you don’t wanna lose progress, stop playing. It’s that simple. A wipe with short notice will have the same effects as a wipe with an early notice.

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    Quote from Zarozian

    They really need more transparency about these kinds of things, so I'd rather a definite answer, especially for the part about the wipe and a explanatory answer for what exactly the EXP gain is.


    Cause from what I heard, the people who reached level 30 already, did so because the cash shop was working for them and they bought a lot of S+ Vitamins and Mats or something like that.

    Well the exp problem was that some people got to high levels really fast so you know that means right high levels = wipe

    Then they should announce it already, instead of waiting till the last second.

    i don't think they will wipe. that would give the game an even more bad rep. especially for how the servers have been recently. it's like beating a dead horse

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    I mean everyone was begging for the release of the game and now everyone is questioning why they released it.. Not easy to please everyone.


    That's an excellent observation. :) This is why i don't envy the jobs and tasks presented to the folks within this industry.

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    I mean everyone was begging for the release of the game and now everyone is questioning why they released it.. Not easy to please everyone.


    That's an excellent observation. :) This is why i don't envy the jobs and tasks presented to the folks within this industry.

    I'm glad you like Warframe though.

    I don't get what's so hard to understand about this. Lets use a scenario.


    You buy tickets to a baseball game this Saturday, planned and set aside time for it, only to be told it MAY be cancelled due to bad weather. The final decision lies with the home team's manager, and won't be made till Saturday itself.


    YOU CAN'T ASK "WHERE IS OUR TRANSPARENCY". No one can control the weather, and no one knows what the weather will be like till Saturday actually arrives. They literally. Don't. Know.


    This is the exact same situation. It can't be predicted what issues may pop up, like this exp gain bug that needed a patch. If enough of these happen to skew the progress of players, there will be a wipe. If not, there won't be a wipe.


    The only thing I agree with is that it was a bad call to release the game on Steam before proper testing. That's just shooting the game's reputation in the foot.


    But as for why they aren't calling it a closed open beta, or why did they not run an alpha or closed beta period, who cares? Whatever they call it doesn't change the fact that this is an untested environment. As I mentioned in my previous post here, everyone KNEW from day 1 they were going straight to Open Beta, which means it was almost confirmed there was no serious stress testing or build testing done. Did you all honestly think you'd get a polished, bug-free game right from the get go?


    Closers Online had their Alpha on a closed selection system, and their Closed Beta was PAID ACCESS. That's right, people knew they would potentially experience all the same issues of crashing, bugs, delay, etc. that we are right now, and they paid MONEY OUT THEIR WALLET to do it.


    Understand what a beta is. Understand all the implications, connotations, and complications that can happen in one. Your time is wasted? You can't play because of crashes? You can't deal without knowing whether your progress will be wiped? Tough luck. Gameforge is a company, they can deal with the consequences of their mistakes like Steam release. You as the F2P player have lost absolutely nothing other than time and effort put into a game that had "Beta" tagged in its release from the start.

    I can control the weather...... * ~*

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