Is life steal from Grim Countdown good in fighting boss?

  • Yes if you crit, otherwise no.

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  • Tbh I don't like this extension. It halves the damage you do with Grim Countdown and heals a fraction of that halved damage back. I'd honestly rather use potions or my pocket Stella for heals, rather than use valuable skill points to nerf a skill to do the same thing pots or Stella can.


    You could argue that when you have a higher crit rate and good gear, this may be useful to sustain in raids and whatnot, but you should always have a Stella with you in raids anyway, so...

  • Later on that skill is not even part of your main rotation.

    So yes I do think the extension is worth it for when you need the healing.

    Just because you have a stella in your party it doesnt mean this can't be useful

    I can think of a few scenarios in which it would come in handy + Steel graves.

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  • Tbh I don't like this extension. It halves the damage you do with Grim Countdown and heals a fraction of that halved damage back. I'd honestly rather use potions or my pocket Stella for heals, rather than use valuable skill points to nerf a skill to do the same thing pots or Stella can.


    You could argue that when you have a higher crit rate and good gear, this may be useful to sustain in raids and whatnot, but you should always have a Stella with you in raids anyway, so...

    Tbh it's not like Lily is lacking dmg to need like plus 200% on one single skill, meanwhile having a skill that can almost full heal you can save your life in a lot of situations.

    "Wee yea ra enne ar sar. Wee yea ra enne ar dor"
    "Wee yea ra enne ar ciel. Rrha yea ra ieeya en near
    "
      dnHc39F.jpg

    "Fou yea ra waath ar ciel, en hymme mea, weel nepo en keen ar sar"

    "Rasse, rasse, rasse, rasse, rasee, rasse, en rana!"

  • It's best use with a group of targets, like some bosses will summon mobs sometimes, that's the best moment to use grim countdown if ur HP is low, more targets = more heal

  • It's best use with a group of targets, like some bosses will summon mobs sometimes, that's the best moment to use grim countdown if ur HP is low, more targets = more heal

    Incorrect the life steal only works on one target unfortunately.

    "Wee yea ra enne ar sar. Wee yea ra enne ar dor"
    "Wee yea ra enne ar ciel. Rrha yea ra ieeya en near
    "
      dnHc39F.jpg

    "Fou yea ra waath ar ciel, en hymme mea, weel nepo en keen ar sar"

    "Rasse, rasse, rasse, rasse, rasee, rasse, en rana!"

  • It's best use with a group of targets, like some bosses will summon mobs sometimes, that's the best moment to use grim countdown if ur HP is low, more targets = more heal

    If i remember well, it heals only of 1 target. So even if will have 1 enemy or 100, the heal will be the same

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  • In addition to what everyone else says, the heal isn't much at lower levels because you probably won't have much stacked crit. If you're constantly dying at bosses, the heal from grim countdown won't help much at all.


    Stella's are extremely helpful w/ their heals and also, keep watch on the boss's attack patterns and don't get hit. That's your best bet at not dying.

  • I am using it quite frequently and It's very useful even if you don't crit. It helps sustain yourself incase you get memed and get hit while dodging.

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  • In addition to what everyone else says, the heal isn't much at lower levels because you probably won't have much stacked crit. If you're constantly dying at bosses, the heal from grim countdown won't help much at all.


    Stella's are extremely helpful w/ their heals and also, keep watch on the boss's attack patterns and don't get hit. That's your best bet at not dying.

    Yeah it's not like grim gives you a free pass to be careless.

    It's a pretty decent heal and sustain for bad situations

    but not a "I won't need Stella anymore" skill

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  • You do not need Stella if you don't get hit.


    the-sound-of-git-gud-shh-do-you-hear-it-19222041.pngMemes aside, It's useful in solo runs. Very useful. After you get another point into Absorb, you get 45% heal from the damage. That's a decent chunk.

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  • Later on that skill is not even part of your main rotation.

    So yes I do think the extension is worth it for when you need the healing.

    Just because you have a stella in your party it doesnt mean this can't be useful

    I can think of a few scenarios in which it would come in handy + Steel graves.

    Tbh it's not like Lily is lacking dmg to need like plus 200% on one single skill, meanwhile having a skill that can almost full heal you can save your life in a lot of situations.

    I guess I've just gotten used to living without self heals on Haru. I haven't really tried using it in higher levels, but it does make sense that the heal would scale better with Lily's huge attack scaling.

  • Raids are not going to be as simple as "you dont need a Stella if you are good enough"
    But for now yes, true. Leveling up you don't really need one.

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  • While Grim Countdown (called 'Angel of Death' now) hits quite hard without the extension, it's your first major sustain ability outside of Mediqubes. Sometimes, you'll have a bonus mission or run Steel Graves, and it's useful to keep your HP up.


    It's recommended to take the extension.

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