Let's clarify some things... Gameforge and the community

Shonlex · Mar 8th 2018

I checked sometimes this forum for different announcements and to see the opinions of players.. and all i can see its "stupidity" for some poeple that can understand some basic things about this game in general, constructive things on how to make the game better(which I like this, keep being like this), and some trolls(there must be trolls in every community).

So let's beggin!

First thing first I'm sorry for SEA and South America players that can't play anymore! I know you're all upset about this, but please understand a thing. I'm not the biggest fan of Gameforge, I'm not their pawn or some s**t(sorry for swearing), but keep in mind that there are some contracts between regions. You're regions are under SmileGate jurisdiction, and let's say: "Oh, but Alex, why in the f**k Gameforge didn't post "SINCE LAUNCH" a damn thing about region block and which country can play or not?" Well there must be some things as:

1. EVERYONE CAN FORGET SOMETHINGS! We are not perfect as people, neither some company are perfect.. please understand this... be mature..;

2. I think they let SEA and South America into NA/EU servers to see how many people enter, and maybe "send a report" about this to SmileGate TO OPEN THE GOD DAMN SERVER for your regions... seriously its been 2 years for them...

3. I think they couldn't talk about region block yet or they waited for GOD DAMN information from the SmileGate... maybe SmileGate said too late to make the contracts and inform them about the god damn region block.. so is the SmileGate company's fault to not take action fast.. don't blame only Gameforge... as i said we are humans after all...

4. They intentionally let SEA and South America... well this is kinda questionable if you ask me!

Also one more thing about this region block, etc. , etc. ... Some players that think they are god, that played KR, JP, and other version of the game and say that the NA/EU is stupid. If you don't like NA/EU yet go back to other region, use your godly VPN and be happy, stop complaining about lag and how the game management is here... let's see how things will go by time... it's already 1-2 weeks since open beta. Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

And don't worry some servers from other games are far worse than our Open Beta is.. *gough* Trove... *gough* Blade and Soul *gough* sometimes

Also if some players recommend to you to play with a VPN, even if is it against rules and terms, because you "love" the game so much, just try to listen and don't be a douchebag!

I've waited for Blade and Soul for 4 years since it came in 2016! And I usually don't like or I'm not into VPN, because I know that the game will come sooner or later, and when it come I WILL ENJOT IT AT MAXIMUM!

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Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

The bugs... hmmm yea the bugs.. there are some bugs in the game, like the premium shop that we couldn't acces sometimes... or the guild name being changed after relog.. but just report them (the bugs), and hope that Gameforge will make things better.

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Now lets talk about the "p2w"(pay to win) or as I like to say "p2p"(pay to progress) terms in this game, since yesterday premium shop was updated. And also let's talk about the prices... uhmmmmm the prices and the premium shop!!!

The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous, because they couldn't buy the respective outfit... Also the energy filler that give 100 energy, the xp books, respawners, mats that regen 1 energy per 1 min, and the brooches, the holy brooches that even if i have a premiun brooches I can't feel the difference in damage and stats(no seriously at the end game, you'll feel only 1-2% percent strong if you wear them) so you shouldn't bother with them... so this things are the only" P2W" in this GAME! BEAR THIS IN MIND! Stop with this bulls**t things like: "OMG the game is p2w, I will not spend any money on this!"blah blah... First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Also the prices, especially at costumes and hairs... let's be serious... are a high... I've seen expensive outfits and prices in some games, but holy... this game is far from other at high prices... Keep this in mind, "someone" said that this will not be the final prices at launch, and let's hope it will be like this.

Gameforge, or if one of the moderators or community manager read this part, try to do some research based on different regions of EU and NA, check .. aham.. the average salary and other things, and try to make the price affordable for all poeple... it's just my opinion..

And also try to update the premium shop... I mean the shop system itself is clunky.. you can't preview the outfit you want... and do many other things...

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Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

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The gear progession, the crafting system... and the change of xp rate, drops and the damage of mobs!

I read and also heard in game, that the progression is easy! And it's true you should just pay more attention to the enviroment. The crafting system may be difficult at beggining, but ongoing you'll learn how to do things. But there is a problem, some poeple said the materials required to craft equipment or items are changed, resulting in being more expensive! Why would you do that Gameforge? I hope you're gonna hear our suggestions in changing the game in a good way. The same things I heard about the xp rate and drop rate and also the damage of mobs being higher than Korea or Japan... Hope you're gonna listen to what we said!

New: IT'S SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE THE SAME MATS FROM KORREA IN EU/NA, SO THIS PART ABOUT GEAR, ETC. IS IRRELEVANT NOW!

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The most wanted thing... A skill reset..

Fortunately I read some guides about skills, so I didn't have this problem, but some players got some!

I mean if you didn't played the Korean or Japanese version of the game or didn't read a guide about skills, they are gonna be a headache for you... Some players, let's say "couldn't follow a god damn guide on skills" or guides in general so they f**ked up their skill proggress. Yes, first of all, you should know better, that making your own game style is better, but for the moment is good to listen also to others which made progress or are far more experienced. So GameForge at least try to give a free skill reset, to calm down everything!

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If you read all this thing then... Thanks for "wasting" your time on reading my thread!

I think this is all I could say... for the moment... this thread is more like a suggestion, complain, and also explication kinda thing! Hope you read all I said, and bear in mind some things! But who am I? A judge? Everybody with his opinions, right?

I just wanted to make some statements... Yes, it's my very own opinion about the game, I love it so much, I've waited a long time for this to come, but please try to understand the "game", "community, and "the company" in general!

And also I'm waiting for a lot of criticize... Some people may not like what I said!

"I think grammar killed me this time hmmmmmm!"

Inabi · Mar 8th 2018

im not reading this....too long =w=.No TL;DR either.

Shonlex · Mar 8th 2018

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im not reading this....too long =w=.No TL;DR either.

Seems legit.

Sinous · Mar 8th 2018

no problem brother i would waste my time again good thread

Aldnox · Mar 8th 2018

Hey Gameforge, your post is too long. TL;DR pls ty

morgsensei · Mar 8th 2018

gawd damn it...another essay.

tl;dr

Jennasaur · Mar 8th 2018

Nice rant.

I agree with most of the things you said.

Shonlex · Mar 8th 2018

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gawd damn it...another essay.

tl;dr

I did this to clarify some "stupid things"!

I try to change the mentality of some players in a good way, I don't want this game to die fast...

morgsensei · Mar 8th 2018

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gawd damn it...another essay.

tl;dr

I did this to clarify some "stupid things"!

I try to change the mentality of some players in a good way, I don't want this game to die fast...

Forget about trying to change people minds, once your at a certain age, it is nearly impossible to do that. Many of us have experience alpha/beta etc etc and frankly it is basically the same.

Hey there are bots!

Why is this so and so imbalance compared to so and so.

What are the rate of conversion for the cash shop?

who broke the game mechanics?

etc etc etc

It is really nothing new and us plebs just learn that it is part of the experience. Of course we will whine about it in the mean time.

Gytka · Mar 8th 2018

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

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The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

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I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

Case Nexus · Mar 8th 2018

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I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

Wait... wait wait wait. The Costumes that cost ~$30 have STAT BONUS on them?!

Gytka · Mar 8th 2018

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I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

Wait... wait wait wait. The Costumes that cost ~$30 have STAT BONUS on them?!

They have slots for brooches which is what makes it busted. Costumes themselves aren't really a problem

Shonlex · Mar 8th 2018

Quote from Gytka

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

Quote from Shonlex

The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

Display Spoiler

I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

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I love that you "waste" your time reading! Thank you! *seriously is not sarcasm*

Also I specified with the prices in EU/NA: "Gameforge, or if one of the moderators or community manager read this part, try to do some research based on different regions of EU and NA, check .. aham.. the average salary and other things, and try to make the price affordable for all poeple... it's just my opinion.."

THEY realy need to think more through this, if they want people to buy the "products" from the shop!

And with the brooches thing. Yep i said 1-2%, because i enjoyed sometime on a korean stream, if i remember with a guy, he said that brooches make a slight difference in end game and you shouldn't bother with them, it gives you a "little" boost, but I find them sincerely as he said "useless" (not in the bad way).Also I heard people buy the best brooches not to get that little boost, but also to stay top 1-10 on server....

Hope I didn't annoy you that much...

Case Nexus · Mar 8th 2018

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Wait... wait wait wait. The Costumes that cost ~$30 have STAT BONUS on them?!

They have slots for brooches which is what makes it busted. Costumes themselves aren't really a problem

The cash shop ONLY sale of items that give huge stat boosts the more you spend is the very definition of Pay 2 Win.

I've been on the fence about this game for the last 36 hours (you know, since the NA server was down without a word about it all night, but they got that cash shop in there. Oh and then it was down again last night) but if the $30 costumes that are ONLY avail in the cash shop have STAT BOOSTS on them, I am DONE and going to let the few ppl in the world that care about my opinion on games (all eleventeen of them) know what a money-grab shit show this thing is.

And it breaks my damned heart; SUCH a fun game, with tons of potential to have a solid fan base and years of success being straight MURDERED by GF for a quick buck.

I've stated this several times now, on here, on FB, and other places; smart cash shops that encourage a little spending from a BUNCH of people over a few years is better, FOR PROFIT, than gouging out a few grand in a month and your game dying before it's even fully released.

I'll get flamed for all that, I'm sure... But I've just HAD IT with the constant BS going on in the gaming world. Greed is DESTROYING our hobby.

tl:dr: You'er KILLIN me, Smalls!

Nitros · Mar 8th 2018

Well the TL;DR is...

Something about the Region Block. I just skimped it. Ignore that long paragraph , we already discussed almost everything about that topic.
The standard P2W discussion. No idea how people can say that after like one day. Nobody even tried to F2P the game yet.
Something about bot. I stopped reading right away, as GF is most likely aware of this anyway.
Something about "gear progession, the crafting system... and the change of xp rate, drops and the damage of mobs". I don't get this either, as we are definitively not on the same version other regions are. This really just needs to be given some time.
Skill reset. Again we been over this already. There is another thread for that.

All in all it just repeats other threads. Yes there are issues but no need to open a new thread every day because of that. Give them a chance to do something and have some patient.

Also, I find it almost insulting how little effort was put into formatting the text. The editor isn't just decoration and by the length of the text you early notice that not much tough was put into it. Well, writing a short post takes effort I guess.

Edit: People complaining about the cost of costumes of all things is really amusing. I mean, it's way more expansiv to upgrade your gear and the boost you get form this is a lot higher.

Gytka · Mar 8th 2018

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Quote from Gytka

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

Quote from Shonlex

The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

Display Spoiler

I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

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I love that you "waste" your time reading! Thank you! *seriously is not sarcasm*

Also I specified with the prices in EU/NA: "Gameforge, or if one of the moderators or community manager read this part, try to do some research based on different regions of EU and NA, check .. aham.. the average salary and other things, and try to make the price affordable for all poeple... it's just my opinion.."

THEY realy need to think more through this, if they want people to buy the "products" from the shop!

And with the brooches thing. Yep i said 1-2%, because i enjoyed sometime on a korean stream, if i remember with a guy, he said that brooches make a slight difference in end game and you shouldn't bother with them, it gives you a "little" boost, but I find them sincerely as he said "useless" (not in the bad way).Also I heard people buy the best brooches not to get that little boost, but also to stay top 1-10 on server....

Hope I didn't annoy you that much...

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The numbers are right in front of you, and you're saying it's still 1-2%? I'm starting to question your ability in comparing numbers. These are ONLY the set effects. NOT the possible effects themselves from the brooches, so the stats you get listed from these pictures are A BONUS. On top of the brooch efffects that you roll.

Based on average salary? So you're saying Norway gets so much soulcoins because they're poor? And Canada is extremely rich? Are you sure about that? Try googling the average/ minimum salaries of both Norway and Canada. The current prices they have are heavily unfavourable and literally a scam for NA people. This fact alone pisses me off even though I'm from one of the countries that has the highest ratio.

Fairlyn · Mar 8th 2018

Quote from Gytka

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

Quote from Shonlex

The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

Display Spoiler

I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

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Except those bonuses are % and since % bonuses are scaling from your base stats without items, indeed, its only 1-2% diffrence, with the expetion being stamina

Xandorai · Mar 8th 2018

Quote from Gytka

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

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The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

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I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

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Edit: Oops, wrong set. Picture is correct.

Just a note, I happen to have a GIGA set in the Foot slot on my character and there isn't a bonus to Crit Chance, only the Accuracy and Crit Dmg.

Neoyoshi · Mar 8th 2018

Nope, sorry, i am not reading all that.

But i think i can grasp the gist oh what is being conveyed anyway by the thread title.

Unless the Thread is really about some alternate story retelling Peter Rabbits tragic life as he deals with drug addiction. D:

RubyRose · Mar 8th 2018

Quote from Fairlyn

Quote from Gytka

Oh boy one of those again...

Alright. After "wasting" quite a while reading this long af post. I must ask you some things.

Quote from Shonlex

Also do you know what an OPEN BETA is? Do you except the servers to run smoothly? Also the open beta is different from close beta, where you must get an invitation or register by time to enter on server... In close beta there is a limited playerbase to test the game, there is no big stress on server, so the lag or the chance for server failure is low... But in open beta the playerbase is "unknown" for a period of time and the chance of lag and server failure are big... since the server are under stress constantly.. so bear this in mind!

Yes I do, Do you? Open beta is the final phase of testing. When it's a few minor bugs as well as stress test remain, where the publishers push their servers to the limits to see how stable/unstable their servers are currently and make changes according to that.

What we got was a game that didn't went through even the most simplest tests or polishing. I will get to that after another quote

Quote from Shonlex

Now, let's talk about bugs and region translation!

Some player like the region translation(Kain>Kairon I realy like the name), and some... let's just not ask.. "I mean Luke III? Seriously? If I didn't read the dialogue when I reach Candus City or to know his name from KR and JP version, I could say that he is from the 3rd generation of scientists from his family! I mean we learn some history here??? Are we in highschool? Aham... I know that you need money to hire translators... but please... you can do better

Names are like honestly whatever. Considering it's GameForge and they're treating everybody like a snowflake when it comes to offending them, sometimes they're forced to change things regarding the past events. Victor also got a name change in other GameForge game called Elsword.

As for the other translations, Today's patch fixed some of the Korean messages such as login, and inverted mouse in the options. Haven't seen too much difference yet.
However.

"If Victory HP Recovery" = HP drain on kill

"Armor Break" = Defence ignore
The left is what we have currently. The right is what it should actually be. I do hope with time they will polish it.

Overall i Agree with most of the points said regarding translations.

Quote from Shonlex

Bots, money sellers and scammers!

Have you ever found a bot, money seller or scammers in other games? If you did, what did you do? Sadly there is no report option in the game... hope they will add this later... I hope. Keep in mind the only thing you must do is to not encourage them, because the economy of the game can suffer, which can result in the "dead" of the game or a stagnate perioud! For the moment take a picture of the bot, money seller or scammers and report them to support!

Just Shows that a game is doing well. However if not taken action against. Ripperonies.

Quote from Shonlex

The only P2W thing in this gamea are... cosmetics.. the god damn things that make us "beautiful" and make some poeple jealous,

Quote from Shonlex

First learn what p2w is and how the game works...

Boy. You stepped into the wrong neighborhood.

'Scuse me? Only 1-2%?

Display Spoiler

I don't see how this is only 1-2% stronger. With the higher values we start getting endgame this is actually ridiculous.

There is no point complaining about EXP gain things since pretty much any MMO these days have it.

As for the SoulCoin. it is relatively unfair when one country has to pay double compared to the other one.

Canadians need to pay ~280 CAD in order to get what Norwegians get for 999KR. I'll leave it up to you to do the conversion math and see how ridiculous that is.

Item Prices. Some of them are a little bit too much. But relatively close to what most MMO's have these days.

I kind of agree with the rest of the things mentioned unless I missed something.

Display More
Except those bonuses are % and since % bonuses are scaling from your base stats without items, indeed, its only 1-2% diffrence, with the expetion being stamina

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Attack speed and Movement speed are true values.

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