Bots getting out of hand

    You're complaining that bots are ruining the economy, but I'm still able to make gold, and I'm not even "merching", or whatever you assume that I'm doing to make money. If you're not succeeding at something take responsibility stop blaming the world.

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    I'm not assuming anything, I don't even know you. You're taking the topic too personally, imo.

    "I'm still able to make gold" - just like everyone else in here, nobody ever said they can't make money, you're the one bad-mouthing people assuming they're complaining 'cause they can't. Also, anecdotal evidence is not a valid argument. Reporting your experience shall never be the main argument, it's only valid as a support to your main point.


    You gotta be quite blind not to see the changes in the market they're effectively making - at least in comparison to the legitimate real money -> dzenai exchange method, which is by selling SoulCash items, they're beating the prices hugely, which means whales and cash item sellers are gonna have to adjust their prices or surrender to buying gold via illegit websites.


    Don't play the pro if you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not sure which server you're playing at, but at Tenebris 1M = 0.2 USD right now (RMT/Gold seller price). An outfit is worth 10M to 12M, the other pieces can range from 2M to 4M, and in general they sell the whole costume pack for 25M. Tell me in which kind of universe you live in that paying 20 USD for a costume pack to sell for 25M total is a better deal than just buying 25M for 5 USD avoiding the need to even find buyer for your costume pack.


    You can also check the price for regular items such as LV55 blueprints and weapon upgrade chips. The latter, has increased from 300K to 500K buyer price in 3 days or less. Sure, the demand increase as more people reached end-game, but still the dzenai devaluation came in too fast. As I said before too, my own dzenai gain increased too much from selling the same items as always - less than a week ago I'd make from 5M to 8M a day, now I get from the 15th base and higher and with that I'm spending as much as I'm making.

    I stopped reading at "You're taking the topic too personally," coming from the person writing paragraphs. Stop crying on the forums, and go find new methods to make money in the game. ;)

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    As mentioned already, the team is working hard on it. We will provide a solution as fast as we can. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience!

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    Would be healthy if we can use the chat after lv.15 or something and Mega-chat after lv.20 ~ but its just my opinion

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    Ruining the economy isn't about not being able to make gold, but about making gold worthless.

    I don't consider myself as a poor person, sitting on 300mil right now but at this rate this amount of money will have the same worth as 1mil in a few months.

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    I assume there will be some kind of anti hacking tool implemented ones this game is fully released. This should at least reduce the amount of bots

    No it won't.


    All those anti-cheat garbage software like GameGuard, HackShield, XIGNCODE, etc., just cause issues for legitimate players and do NOTHING to stop botting/cheating.


    Every single game with these "anti-cheat" software has a multitude of bots and working hacks for it. It doesn't matter which they use, they're all bypassable.


    Meanwhile, they hurt people who aren't cheating by preventing certain applications from running, and screwing up other things on your system, and acting like a rootkit to boot. For me, I suffer from arthritis and need to use an AHK script to act as a 'turbo' button in certain games or else I can't play them due to severe pain. For any game protected by XIGNCODE, I can't, nor can I even run it in the background doing afk activities (like BDO) because it auto-closes the game once AHK gets launched. Hell, I even used a gamepad remapping program made in AHK, that's unusable too.


    Also, there's currently an extremely useful tool made for this game which remedies the atrociously low FoV and extremely close camera room, rendering the game extremely uncomfortable to play. This tool will stop working if one of those anti-cheat things gets added. As the game feels terrible to play without it, I suspect many people using it will quit outright. I doubt they'll ever improve the game to increase the camera zoom/FoV either, so this is yet another helpful thing blocked while botting/cheating won't be affected.


    TLDR: Anti-cheat software isn't the answer; see every other game 'protected' with them for an example.

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    Would be healthy if we can use the chat after lv.15 or something and Mega-chat after lv.20 ~ but its just my opinion

    Level 5 for normal chat, and level 20 for mega chat would be my suggestion. Level 15 seems far too long for an MMO, where people socialize. You shouldn't be able to whisper, send mail, or trade until level 15 imo, tho. I've been sent friend requests, whispers, and mail by a few bots when I was on my alts. Not exactly pleasant.

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    Does it make sense to you ?



    HELL NAW - NOT TO ME EITHER. THAT S WHY I LIKE IT !!!!

    Yeah we better start recruiting bot hunters then! You could actually think of a system to make this possible, but I am not in the mood to think of something right now. Other can use their brain as well.


    I don't see how real life <-> ingame money means anything at this point. People might just still try out what people are willing to pay. I also really doesn't matter. Just earn the money yourself and buy those goods if you want them. No need to care of it at all and it also keeps prices low.


    I don't think putting a level limit on the chat helps anything. I mean, they do need to farm the money somehow and level 5 will not prevent anything. How do they get into the mega chat in the first place? Surly they are not buying those stuff, so shot off their source.

    omg gameforge is there anything you can do with the gold spamming problem! like if enough people block it will terminate account of bots. need something to help.;(

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    When you ban 10 , 50 more come.
    When you take down domain , 5 min after another one is made with the exact content in it with a different name.
    When you make custom filter , they always find a way to bypass it ~
    When you add more control in registration and in game verification they find more way to bypass it too..
    There is actually nothing to do :' )

    Since bots/gold sellers are a thing , no one so far did find the best solution to it ~
    Some make a lot of control behind email / captcha , ingame verification and such but in the end they are always in and working actively even if you don't see any of them spam chat in certains mmo..

    You don't really need bot chat spam tbh , if someone want gold he just type " Name of the game - Gold " in google.

    Like many people said , hunting bots is pointless since the owner of them will spam them as much as he can.
    Kill the source , and you're fine but it look like it's also even harder than taking bots down it seems and too much effort prolly.

    Your best option > Block them and live with it :/ I'm kinda used to it so it doesn't bother me that much.
    It also don't make my gold income decrease that much , even if it does sometime i still farm and get a nice amount daily so..

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    Can only agree on that, it's really annoying to have to search for the char that is spamming - especially while leveling alts in rucco, the further you get the less prominent the spams get, tho it's still a nuisance that's not necessary ._.

    I mean your suggestion is a way to counter that, but the spammers won't use their private email adresses for their accounts, so they won't be bothered by just getting lets say their char/account chat banned -> they will just make new accs and start with the same shit again.
    If they would start filtering urls and pricing/money symbols it may interfere with everyday player buisness as well, but at some point every publisher has to deal with the gold sellers, hopefully gf will consider that after the full release.


    (Until then a quality of life feature would be neat to have, like a RMB-click in chat, to have the same options like standing in front of a character and pressing LMB on them, so you can at least block these spammers quicker ^^)

    bump, the economy is on the verge of self-destruction at this point, with prices doubling overnight every once in a while, over last night weapon upgrade chip turned from 2mil to 4 mil, energy converters from 30mil to 45mil, and every night it get worse cause of all the gold injected into the economy by gold bots, gold buyers thriving considering you're not doing anything about it, ruining the economy with injected gold, people who didn't start during early beta are giving up on the game as soon as they arrive to gearing since you can't afford stuff as a new player anymore, the worst part about all of this, is that the gold bots are extremely easy to find, yet the game doesn't have a system to take care of them. I hate being pessimist about the game and spreading negativity about it but from a realistic viewpoint, the game is dying right now, new players leaving as soon as they reach 55, old ones leaving cause of the lack of content.

    I saw that someone just bought all Wep upgrade and EC and resold it for a much higher price.


    I think just increase drop rate a little bit so ppl are less reliant on the market and prices drops. Right now it's ridiculously too low of a chance to farm essential blueprints for ppl who just became 55.


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    I saw that someone just bought all Wep upgrade and EC and resold it for a much higher price.


    I think just increase drop rate a little bit so ppl are less reliant on the market and prices drops. Right now it's ridiculously too low of a chance to farm essential blueprints for ppl who just became 55.


    10 runs in ep.4 manic in ruin foretress rarely yield a helmet and shoulder BP

    the guy bought a few bil from gold selling websites to flip the economy, even bragging about it on mega lmao