Anyone else just concerned?

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That is excatly what i want to hear from gameforge.

What are their planes on game updates. How often this will be. How bug update will be.

When will we catch the korean version. And will we

I say give them at least until April 1st or a week into April, and then complain if the situation is still the same. Like I mentioned before, we're just barely approaching the one-month milestone. It hasn't even been 30 days yet. I doubt we will actually catch up to KR since this is rarely ever the case in a relationship where the developer is not also the publisher.

I think you and alot of other people are missing our point. I going to say it a simply as I can. We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game. That's it. This is a beta and at the very least you should have a community manager for that. Especially in a beta where they are expecting people to spend money already.

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Oh, you guys... Let me Iaddress your first, Lathander.

"You say that there is nothing to complain about but tell that to all the threads that come in daily about legitimate issues. You might be happy with a company doing the bare minimum but GF is not even doing that."

-Did I say "NOTHING". No. Don't put words in my mouth. Most of the issues scheming about the game isn't because of Gameforge. IF you people would actually look at the main source of the updates which is Liongames and Smilgate you would see that. Some issues do revolve around Gameforge. Like for example, some of the prices in the IM. But, even then it was most likely to fill a quota asked for by the creators of the game: Liongames. But, most of them have nothing to do with what Gameforge is currently doing.Gameforge only has so much control over the game. They're just taking orders and filling quotas because they're the hosts not the devs.

"I want this game to be good and its really frustrating that they treat their players so badly. Whats even worse is when player such as yourself dismiss concerns and start name calling. Can you honestly look at this situation and say its ok?"

-I personally feel there's a fine line between complaining non-stop emotionally and actually talking about issues that hold value. You fall in the latter of complaining non-stop emotionally and your incoherent forum posts prove that much. How are they treating us badly? I think you people forget that this is a beta. Issues are still being addressed. Just because they don't directly talk to you like the spoiled entitled brat that you are doesn't mean they aren't trying to fix up the issues that are current in this release of the game. Have you ever played a game under very poor management? I don't think you have. Because if you ever have you would know what's going on currently isn't even that great of a deal of what people are making it out to be. P2W, which is what most people complain about. Where? Everything you can access for to help you in game you can grind out yourself. Events later will yield ST resets and guild name resets. IF Gameforge holds honest then we should expect to get those as well at some point in the future. More cash shop updates than game updates? We're in the beta. Even outside of the beta that's what to be expected on every server because the game has been around for roughly 3~4 years and a good chunk of those two years were either beta or class advancements. Glitches and bugs? They're addressed almost every other patch. And glitches and bugs will always been persistent in any update of the game. Because they don't get them all in a single patch doesn't mean they aren't trying. Ninja updates? Most MMOs share such a thing. This isn't a Gameforge neglecting to tell the community about information type thing. I can go down the list. What real issue is there where they're treating us badly? Lack of content updates? We're still in the beta. Even outside of the beta there's not a lot to expect in the long run outside of cash shop updates. I've been checking posts they're trying their hardest to talk to us on every server. Where are they treating us poorly? I fail to see one bit of it. What exactly are you looking for? Summing up roughly what most of your forum posts address I fail to see what you're trying to ask for.

Vaunhause

"Damn, 50 whole players. I love how you knew the *exact* amount of people playing on the server, and totally didn't pull it outta nowhere at all. Pretty sure if it was just 50 whales, those servers and content updates would not even sustain themselves at all. They'd be better off shutting down, lol."

-I'll take that for the joke it is because I know you know what I'm saying. It's an Exaggeration. It means that the playerbase in KR is currently so low that it feels as if only 50 people are playing as of right now. In other words it's very low and that's concerning but it's also to be expected given how it's hard to compete in the Korean game scene.

And like I mentioned KR MMOs don't usually last the first few years. They might very well be close to shutting down if something doesn't happen that draws in more players to the mother server.

"They've already implemented pvp, with it's own mode and everything. Problem is, the pvp is not good."

-No they've not. Outside of district 6 and the new current mode in KR it's more of a very old alpha version released 2~3 years ago and they're still experimenting with various updates on KR and JP. This current PVP build we have on the INT server has been around for about 3? years now.

"Hopefully they take a note from Dragon Nest before it got stupid, remove superarmour or add superarmour and superarmour break values, as well as decrease the amount of "oneshot damage" you do in this game. That'd be a fantastic start to make pvp great. None of this gauge stuff. If you wanted to avoid pvp, you should take the chopper.

Also, cap stamina to 100, and make dodge just 20 instead of 40 in district 6/pvp modes, and suddenly we have a pvp system to speak about."

-Remove a core feature that designs the nature of this game? This is what I'm talking about. People complaining about everything. Super armor? Because you don't like Super armor they should remove a core feature of the game, one that actually gives it a challenge to comply to your entitlement of what you feel is acceptable? You just want to mindlessly hack and slash things? Then this probably isn't the game for you.

-Oneshot damage? The players do in this game? Since you said "we". Are you running around with a +9? Pretty hard to oneshot anything in this game if you're running with the current meta that is +6~+7. Maybe you should let off the gear a little. Because when you reach +9 of course you're going to one shot everything. It's the highest grade you can currently get.

The rest are just as subjective as the rest of something you hold personal of your perfect game rather than anything that means anything worth giving a damn over. They hold no water. So, I won't address those.

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When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak. If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues. I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all. I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling.

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Just because they don't tell us anything it doesn't mean their not acknowledging us. We're barely even 1 month into the beta and some people already expect constant new updates with new content..? Adding costumes to the shop doesn't take them much time and keeps (some) players interested in the game. And im pretty sure they're already working on preperations for the official relase or/and new content, so keeping some players interested meanwhile with costumes isn't a bad thing at all. This game isn't even out of the beta so just be patient and see what's coming next. To be honest im pretty sure u don't even want that game to succeed at all, ur not even trying to give it a chance.

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On the contrary, I would love this game to succeed. I think most people who have concerns want the game to succeed. People complain because they are frustrated.

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I get the feeling that u don't even try to see good things in what they do, that's why I assumed that, but okay.

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I think you and alot of other people are missing our point. I going to say it a simply as I can. We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game. That's it. This is a beta and at the very least you should have a community manager for that. Especially in a beta where they are expecting people to spend money already.

This is the exact point I addressed in my huge wall of text earlier, which I don't blame you for not reading. Basically, I said the community managers can't tell us anything if GameForge hasn't given them anything to say, and GameForge can't give them anything to say if Lion Games doesn't give them anything to say. For all we know, Lion Games could have just released this game with little to no planning and might not have even finished planning the content schedule yet. That's assuming they even started planning at all. Like I said in my previous post, give them at least another week or two. It would be nice to at least have some kind of ongoing event though, even if the rewards suck.

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I think you and alot of other people are missing our point. I going to say it a simply as I can. We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game. That's it. This is a beta and at the very least you should have a community manager for that. Especially in a beta where they are expecting people to spend money already.

This is the exact point I addressed in my huge wall of text earlier, which I don't blame you for not reading. Basically, I said the community managers can't tell us anything if GameForge hasn't given them anything to say, and GameForge can't give them anything to say if Lion Games doesn't give them anything to say. For all we know, Lion Games could have just released this game with little to no planning and might not have even finished planning the content schedule yet. That's assuming they even started planning at all. Like I said in my previous post, give them at least another week or two. It would be nice to at least have some kind of ongoing event though, even if the rewards suck.

Still they can't say that at least. I mean anything lol

In regards to concerns about the cash shop costumes being added despite little apparent developmental progress, it's worth remembering that the people who are porting over costumes most likely aren't the same people who would be fixing bugs in the code or implementing game features.

Oof this thread has some gross stuff just from the first page. In regards to your concerns, if you wanna put time into this game for enjoyment sake then go for it. There's legitimate complaints but honestly none of them are enough to stop anyone playing the game (except for ip blocked regions). Spending money well that's up to you and I while I don't think much from the cash shop is worth the price-tag at the moment there are plenty who do. Just play the game tbh, I'm not gonna say 'it's beta' because there's practically no difference between 'beta' and 'full release' now days. But it is early days. Like very early days. We can't completely judge the outcome after 1-2 months.

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Oh, you guys... Let me Iaddress your first, Lathander.

"You say that there is nothing to complain about but tell that to all the threads that come in daily about legitimate issues. You might be happy with a company doing the bare minimum but GF is not even doing that."

-Did I say "NOTHING". No. Don't put words in my mouth. Most of the issues scheming about the game isn't because of Gameforge. IF you people would actually look at the main source of the updates which is Liongames and Smilgate you would see that. Some issues do revolve around Gameforge. Like for example, some of the prices in the IM. But, even then it was most likely to fill a quota asked for by the creators of the game: Liongames. But, most of them have nothing to do with what Gameforge is currently doing.Gameforge only has so much control over the game. They're just taking orders and filling quotas because they're the hosts not the devs.

"I want this game to be good and its really frustrating that they treat their players so badly. Whats even worse is when player such as yourself dismiss concerns and start name calling. Can you honestly look at this situation and say its ok?"

-I personally feel there's a fine line between complaining non-stop emotionally and actually talking about issues that hold value. You fall in the latter of complaining non-stop emotionally and your incoherent forum posts prove that much. How are they treating us badly? I think you people forget that this is a beta. Issues are still being addressed. Just because they don't directly talk to you like the spoiled entitled brat that you are doesn't mean they aren't trying to fix up the issues that are current in this release of the game. Have you ever played a game under very poor management? I don't think you have. Because if you ever have you would know what's going on currently isn't even that great of a deal of what people are making it out to be. P2W, which is what most people complain about. Where? Everything you can access for to help you in game you can grind out yourself. Events later will yield ST resets and guild name resets. IF Gameforge holds honest then we should expect to get those as well at some point in the future. More cash shop updates than game updates? We're in the beta. Even outside of the beta that's what to be expected on every server because the game has been around for roughly 3~4 years and a good chunk of those two years were either beta or class advancements. Glitches and bugs? They're addressed almost every other patch. And glitches and bugs will always been persistent in any update of the game. Because they don't get them all in a single patch doesn't mean they aren't trying. Ninja updates? Most MMOs share such a thing. This isn't a Gameforge neglecting to tell the community about information type thing. I can go down the list. What real issue is there where they're treating us badly? Lack of content updates? We're still in the beta. Even outside of the beta there's not a lot to expect in the long run outside of cash shop updates. I've been checking posts they're trying their hardest to talk to us on every server. Where are they treating us poorly? I fail to see one bit of it. What exactly are you looking for? Summing up roughly what most of your forum posts address I fail to see what you're trying to ask for.

Vaunhause

"Damn, 50 whole players. I love how you knew the *exact* amount of people playing on the server, and totally didn't pull it outta nowhere at all. Pretty sure if it was just 50 whales, those servers and content updates would not even sustain themselves at all. They'd be better off shutting down, lol."

-I'll take that for the joke it is because I know you know what I'm saying. It's an Exaggeration. It means that the playerbase in KR is currently so low that it feels as if only 50 people are playing as of right now. In other words it's very low and that's concerning but it's also to be expected given how it's hard to compete in the Korean game scene.

And like I mentioned KR MMOs don't usually last the first few years. They might very well be close to shutting down if something doesn't happen that draws in more players to the mother server.

"They've already implemented pvp, with it's own mode and everything. Problem is, the pvp is not good."

-No they've not. Outside of district 6 and the new current mode in KR it's more of a very old alpha version released 2~3 years ago and they're still experimenting with various updates on KR and JP. This current PVP build we have on the INT server has been around for about 3? years now.

"Hopefully they take a note from Dragon Nest before it got stupid, remove superarmour or add superarmour and superarmour break values, as well as decrease the amount of "oneshot damage" you do in this game. That'd be a fantastic start to make pvp great. None of this gauge stuff. If you wanted to avoid pvp, you should take the chopper.

Also, cap stamina to 100, and make dodge just 20 instead of 40 in district 6/pvp modes, and suddenly we have a pvp system to speak about."

-Remove a core feature that designs the nature of this game? This is what I'm talking about. People complaining about everything. Super armor? Because you don't like Super armor they should remove a core feature of the game, one that actually gives it a challenge to comply to your entitlement of what you feel is acceptable? You just want to mindlessly hack and slash things? Then this probably isn't the game for you.

-Oneshot damage? The players do in this game? Since you said "we". Are you running around with a +9? Pretty hard to oneshot anything in this game if you're running with the current meta that is +6~+7. Maybe you should let off the gear a little. Because when you reach +9 of course you're going to one shot everything. It's the highest grade you can currently get.

The rest are just as subjective as the rest of something you hold personal of your perfect game rather than anything that means anything worth giving a damn over. They hold no water. So, I won't address those.

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When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak. If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues. I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all. I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling.

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"When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak."

-Except, you know, the several sentences that actually do address substance about the common issues spoke about in the community in what I wrote. But, no, let's just gloss over that part which is roughly 90% of what I wrote and let's complain about name calling. Let me use what you said against you. "When a person has to resort to picking out petty buzzwords in an argument that hold no substance you know they're just full of shit." Oh my god, but my feelings! They're hurt! How could you do that! <- This is you while you gloss over everything else I said that holds weight.

"If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues."

-So, what was everything I wrote then? Apparently you just glossed over everything after the insults because I hurt your ego a little too much. Grow up.

" I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all"

-Says you don't want to be directly addressed then proceeds to say you want to be directly addressed. They've been doing that. Which is why I said that. Maybe you're not actually taking the time to look around and you're just complaining at every second.

"I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling."

-I don't think people are complaining too much. I think SOME people are complaining too much. Like YOU, for example. When 95% of your posts consists of nothing but complaints, I can't help but wonder if you have some personal beef with Gameforge and are unable to see clearly which leads to your non-stop ranting or if you have some type of mental issue.

I have a piece of two cent I would like to share.

Games in general have flaws, and that's a fact. The majority of the complaints that are masked as concerns are valid, and it is understandably a frustrating time for both players and company to face lack of content in the standing, mostly because of the lag time between publishers and developers.

What I don't get, however, is how a lot of players got themselves into a never-ending loop of repetitive arguments by beating down a dead horse over and over. When the English localization of SoulWorker has only been out for barely a month now with the expectations of bugs and server instability in early stages.

I mean, technically speaking the marketing side could've been a lot better from Gameforge's part early on when SoulWorker NA/EU were around in Closed Beta, but they might get held back by the developer for unknown reasons we might end up never knowing about, and certainly the officials won't be able to tell us outright since it is considered internal information.

Most importantly above all else, this game will be treated as a beta phase until we receive official statements from Gameforge for a live release date. Nitpick all you like, but you won't be able to get far with further answers other than: "I'm sorry, we can't confirm on x and y at this time. Thank you for your patience."

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Oh, you guys... Let me Iaddress your first, Lathander.

"You say that there is nothing to complain about but tell that to all the threads that come in daily about legitimate issues. You might be happy with a company doing the bare minimum but GF is not even doing that."

-Did I say "NOTHING". No. Don't put words in my mouth. Most of the issues scheming about the game isn't because of Gameforge. IF you people would actually look at the main source of the updates which is Liongames and Smilgate you would see that. Some issues do revolve around Gameforge. Like for example, some of the prices in the IM. But, even then it was most likely to fill a quota asked for by the creators of the game: Liongames. But, most of them have nothing to do with what Gameforge is currently doing.Gameforge only has so much control over the game. They're just taking orders and filling quotas because they're the hosts not the devs.

"I want this game to be good and its really frustrating that they treat their players so badly. Whats even worse is when player such as yourself dismiss concerns and start name calling. Can you honestly look at this situation and say its ok?"

-I personally feel there's a fine line between complaining non-stop emotionally and actually talking about issues that hold value. You fall in the latter of complaining non-stop emotionally and your incoherent forum posts prove that much. How are they treating us badly? I think you people forget that this is a beta. Issues are still being addressed. Just because they don't directly talk to you like the spoiled entitled brat that you are doesn't mean they aren't trying to fix up the issues that are current in this release of the game. Have you ever played a game under very poor management? I don't think you have. Because if you ever have you would know what's going on currently isn't even that great of a deal of what people are making it out to be. P2W, which is what most people complain about. Where? Everything you can access for to help you in game you can grind out yourself. Events later will yield ST resets and guild name resets. IF Gameforge holds honest then we should expect to get those as well at some point in the future. More cash shop updates than game updates? We're in the beta. Even outside of the beta that's what to be expected on every server because the game has been around for roughly 3~4 years and a good chunk of those two years were either beta or class advancements. Glitches and bugs? They're addressed almost every other patch. And glitches and bugs will always been persistent in any update of the game. Because they don't get them all in a single patch doesn't mean they aren't trying. Ninja updates? Most MMOs share such a thing. This isn't a Gameforge neglecting to tell the community about information type thing. I can go down the list. What real issue is there where they're treating us badly? Lack of content updates? We're still in the beta. Even outside of the beta there's not a lot to expect in the long run outside of cash shop updates. I've been checking posts they're trying their hardest to talk to us on every server. Where are they treating us poorly? I fail to see one bit of it. What exactly are you looking for? Summing up roughly what most of your forum posts address I fail to see what you're trying to ask for.

Vaunhause

"Damn, 50 whole players. I love how you knew the *exact* amount of people playing on the server, and totally didn't pull it outta nowhere at all. Pretty sure if it was just 50 whales, those servers and content updates would not even sustain themselves at all. They'd be better off shutting down, lol."

-I'll take that for the joke it is because I know you know what I'm saying. It's an Exaggeration. It means that the playerbase in KR is currently so low that it feels as if only 50 people are playing as of right now. In other words it's very low and that's concerning but it's also to be expected given how it's hard to compete in the Korean game scene.

And like I mentioned KR MMOs don't usually last the first few years. They might very well be close to shutting down if something doesn't happen that draws in more players to the mother server.

"They've already implemented pvp, with it's own mode and everything. Problem is, the pvp is not good."

-No they've not. Outside of district 6 and the new current mode in KR it's more of a very old alpha version released 2~3 years ago and they're still experimenting with various updates on KR and JP. This current PVP build we have on the INT server has been around for about 3? years now.

"Hopefully they take a note from Dragon Nest before it got stupid, remove superarmour or add superarmour and superarmour break values, as well as decrease the amount of "oneshot damage" you do in this game. That'd be a fantastic start to make pvp great. None of this gauge stuff. If you wanted to avoid pvp, you should take the chopper.

Also, cap stamina to 100, and make dodge just 20 instead of 40 in district 6/pvp modes, and suddenly we have a pvp system to speak about."

-Remove a core feature that designs the nature of this game? This is what I'm talking about. People complaining about everything. Super armor? Because you don't like Super armor they should remove a core feature of the game, one that actually gives it a challenge to comply to your entitlement of what you feel is acceptable? You just want to mindlessly hack and slash things? Then this probably isn't the game for you.

-Oneshot damage? The players do in this game? Since you said "we". Are you running around with a +9? Pretty hard to oneshot anything in this game if you're running with the current meta that is +6~+7. Maybe you should let off the gear a little. Because when you reach +9 of course you're going to one shot everything. It's the highest grade you can currently get.

The rest are just as subjective as the rest of something you hold personal of your perfect game rather than anything that means anything worth giving a damn over. They hold no water. So, I won't address those.

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When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak. If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues. I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all. I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling.

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"When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak."

-Except, you know, the several sentences that actually do address substance about the common issues spoke about in the community in what I wrote. But, no, let's just gloss over that part which is roughly 90% of what I wrote and let's complain about name calling. Let me use what you said against you. "When a person has to resort to picking out petty buzzwords in an argument that hold no substance you know they're just full of shit." Oh my god, but my feelings! They're hurt! How could you do that! <- This is you while you gloss over everything else I said that holds weight.

"If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues."

-So, what was everything I wrote then? Apparently you just glossed over everything after the insults because I hurt your ego a little too much. Grow up.

" I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all"

-Says you don't want to be directly addressed then proceeds to say you want to be directly addressed. They've been doing that. Which is why I said that. Maybe you're not actually taking the time to look around and you're just complaining at every second.

"I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling."

-I don't think people are complaining too much. I think SOME people are complaining too much. Like YOU, for example. When 95% of your posts consists of nothing but complaints, I can't help but wonder if you have some personal beef with Gameforge and are unable to see clearly which leads to your non-stop ranting or if you have some type of mental issue.

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I honestly couldn't care less about your insults. I pointed that out because it's not necessary. Back to the point, I have complained alot but I believe it's for a good reason. I'm not asking for content, nor am I asking for direct affirmation. I would like GF just to say "Hey guys we have heard your concerns on these issues and here is what we can change or here is what we can't change" I don't really think that's asking too much honestly.

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Oh, you guys... Let me Iaddress your first, Lathander.

"You say that there is nothing to complain about but tell that to all the threads that come in daily about legitimate issues. You might be happy with a company doing the bare minimum but GF is not even doing that."

-Did I say "NOTHING". No. Don't put words in my mouth. Most of the issues scheming about the game isn't because of Gameforge. IF you people would actually look at the main source of the updates which is Liongames and Smilgate you would see that. Some issues do revolve around Gameforge. Like for example, some of the prices in the IM. But, even then it was most likely to fill a quota asked for by the creators of the game: Liongames. But, most of them have nothing to do with what Gameforge is currently doing.Gameforge only has so much control over the game. They're just taking orders and filling quotas because they're the hosts not the devs.

"I want this game to be good and its really frustrating that they treat their players so badly. Whats even worse is when player such as yourself dismiss concerns and start name calling. Can you honestly look at this situation and say its ok?"

-I personally feel there's a fine line between complaining non-stop emotionally and actually talking about issues that hold value. You fall in the latter of complaining non-stop emotionally and your incoherent forum posts prove that much. How are they treating us badly? I think you people forget that this is a beta. Issues are still being addressed. Just because they don't directly talk to you like the spoiled entitled brat that you are doesn't mean they aren't trying to fix up the issues that are current in this release of the game. Have you ever played a game under very poor management? I don't think you have. Because if you ever have you would know what's going on currently isn't even that great of a deal of what people are making it out to be. P2W, which is what most people complain about. Where? Everything you can access for to help you in game you can grind out yourself. Events later will yield ST resets and guild name resets. IF Gameforge holds honest then we should expect to get those as well at some point in the future. More cash shop updates than game updates? We're in the beta. Even outside of the beta that's what to be expected on every server because the game has been around for roughly 3~4 years and a good chunk of those two years were either beta or class advancements. Glitches and bugs? They're addressed almost every other patch. And glitches and bugs will always been persistent in any update of the game. Because they don't get them all in a single patch doesn't mean they aren't trying. Ninja updates? Most MMOs share such a thing. This isn't a Gameforge neglecting to tell the community about information type thing. I can go down the list. What real issue is there where they're treating us badly? Lack of content updates? We're still in the beta. Even outside of the beta there's not a lot to expect in the long run outside of cash shop updates. I've been checking posts they're trying their hardest to talk to us on every server. Where are they treating us poorly? I fail to see one bit of it. What exactly are you looking for? Summing up roughly what most of your forum posts address I fail to see what you're trying to ask for.

Vaunhause

"Damn, 50 whole players. I love how you knew the *exact* amount of people playing on the server, and totally didn't pull it outta nowhere at all. Pretty sure if it was just 50 whales, those servers and content updates would not even sustain themselves at all. They'd be better off shutting down, lol."

-I'll take that for the joke it is because I know you know what I'm saying. It's an Exaggeration. It means that the playerbase in KR is currently so low that it feels as if only 50 people are playing as of right now. In other words it's very low and that's concerning but it's also to be expected given how it's hard to compete in the Korean game scene.

And like I mentioned KR MMOs don't usually last the first few years. They might very well be close to shutting down if something doesn't happen that draws in more players to the mother server.

"They've already implemented pvp, with it's own mode and everything. Problem is, the pvp is not good."

-No they've not. Outside of district 6 and the new current mode in KR it's more of a very old alpha version released 2~3 years ago and they're still experimenting with various updates on KR and JP. This current PVP build we have on the INT server has been around for about 3? years now.

"Hopefully they take a note from Dragon Nest before it got stupid, remove superarmour or add superarmour and superarmour break values, as well as decrease the amount of "oneshot damage" you do in this game. That'd be a fantastic start to make pvp great. None of this gauge stuff. If you wanted to avoid pvp, you should take the chopper.

Also, cap stamina to 100, and make dodge just 20 instead of 40 in district 6/pvp modes, and suddenly we have a pvp system to speak about."

-Remove a core feature that designs the nature of this game? This is what I'm talking about. People complaining about everything. Super armor? Because you don't like Super armor they should remove a core feature of the game, one that actually gives it a challenge to comply to your entitlement of what you feel is acceptable? You just want to mindlessly hack and slash things? Then this probably isn't the game for you.

-Oneshot damage? The players do in this game? Since you said "we". Are you running around with a +9? Pretty hard to oneshot anything in this game if you're running with the current meta that is +6~+7. Maybe you should let off the gear a little. Because when you reach +9 of course you're going to one shot everything. It's the highest grade you can currently get.

The rest are just as subjective as the rest of something you hold personal of your perfect game rather than anything that means anything worth giving a damn over. They hold no water. So, I won't address those.

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When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak. If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues. I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all. I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling.

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"When a person has to resort to name calling you know your argument is weak."

-Except, you know, the several sentences that actually do address substance about the common issues spoke about in the community in what I wrote. But, no, let's just gloss over that part which is roughly 90% of what I wrote and let's complain about name calling. Let me use what you said against you. "When a person has to resort to picking out petty buzzwords in an argument that hold no substance you know they're just full of shit." Oh my god, but my feelings! They're hurt! How could you do that! <- This is you while you gloss over everything else I said that holds weight.

"If you did in fact read my past posts and if you leisurely scroll through the forums you would know the issues."

-So, what was everything I wrote then? Apparently you just glossed over everything after the insults because I hurt your ego a little too much. Grow up.

" I'm not asking to be directly addressed either..l just want GF (the company that wants us to pour money into their game) to acknowledge their players concerns that's all"

-Says you don't want to be directly addressed then proceeds to say you want to be directly addressed. They've been doing that. Which is why I said that. Maybe you're not actually taking the time to look around and you're just complaining at every second.

"I mean that's what a beta is supposed to be. If you think people are complaining too much then maybe take the time to understand why instead of needlessly name calling."

-I don't think people are complaining too much. I think SOME people are complaining too much. Like YOU, for example. When 95% of your posts consists of nothing but complaints, I can't help but wonder if you have some personal beef with Gameforge and are unable to see clearly which leads to your non-stop ranting or if you have some type of mental issue.

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I honestly couldn't care less about your insults. I pointed that out because it's not necessary. Back to the point, I have complained alot but I believe it's for a good reason. I'm not asking for content, nor am I asking for direct affirmation. I would like GF just to say "Hey guys we have heard your concerns on these issues and here is what we can change or here is what we can't change" I don't really think that's asking too much honestly.

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"I honestly couldn't care less about your insults."

-Then address the substance and stop playing the victim card. I talked about P2W, lack of content updates, item mall updates over shadowing content updates, etc. All you've said is stop bullying me. If you have good reason explain it. Don't waste my time responding to something I said without further addressing your point. That isn't doing proving anything on your side in the long run.

"I pointed that out because it's not necessary."

-That makes no sense. IF it's not necessary, then there's no real need to point it out.

"Back to the point, I have complained alot but I believe it's for a good reason."

-Explain why then without always saying "you're insulting me." That's not explaining your "good reason". That's just shifting everything someone says with substance under the bus while painting yourself as the victim to get people to side with you. That's what people do when they really have nothing of substance or good feedback to provide.

"I'm not asking for content, nor am I asking for direct affirmation."

-Oh, really? Everything you say says otherwise. You have an entire track record against you.

"I would like GF just to say "Hey guys we have heard your concerns on these issues and here is what we can change or here is what we can't change"

-They have and I'll give a direct example. People earlier were complaining about this game having stamina and to address that they made a post paraphrased as "We've heard your feedback and for the time being we will keep stamina pots and mats free in the item mall until further notice." So, to say that they're not doing that means you're not actually looking around. Want me to list more? I can. Provide evidence of your claim or you're just full of shit. And you're proving my point of you just ranting nonsensically.

" I don't really think that's asking too much honestly."

-It is when they actually do that and you non-stop say the exact same thing that they aren't. Despite there being actual proof that says otherwise.

-Honestly, I think that at the end of the day what'll lead to this server being shutdown is people like you. People that complain constantly without any real substance where the only post of meaning is "they're ignoring the community they just want to take the money from your wallet instead.". That in turns makes people doubtful when they see nothing but that like the OP here. There might be a legitimate reason in where theyr'e screwing up. But, you fail to address any of it in the 84 something posts you liter throughout the forum like a plague. Yet you want people to take you seriously to the point you directly address people's opinions like they're wrong without providing any evidence of why you feel that way.

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We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game.

As mentioned already, it will be done. We simply can't do it right now since we are still in beta and we are collecting feedback, improving technical stuffs and resolving some issues. But please be sure that as soon as we can, we will provide more details and announce the commercial release. Thank you in advance!

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Quote from Lathander

We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game.

As mentioned already, it will be done. We simply can't do it right now since we are still in beta and we are collecting feedback, improving technical stuffs and resolving some issues. But please be sure that as soon as we can, we will provide more details and announce the commercial release. Thank you in advance!

Thank you for responding. Since you are commenting, can you give us a brief view of the issues or concerns you guys are looking into. So people are not hanging in the balance not knowing if they are being heard. I understand you guys are busy but think just a little summary would work wonders for your pr. Thanks

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As mentioned already, it will be done. We simply can't do it right now since we are still in beta and we are collecting feedback, improving technical stuffs and resolving some issues. But please be sure that as soon as we can, we will provide more details and announce the commercial release. Thank you in advance!

Nice to see the announcement is "we're still discussing things, nothing is changing" along with the game's "commercial release" done right out of the blue.

Are we concerned? That's not even the question anymore.