All this work for something that doesnt even wipe all your skillz. Then you have to grind super hard to 5 days straight on all your characters. LOL wow just wow. #Soulcrusheronline
Damn, 5 minutes of work per character. super hard indeed.
Free skill reset tickets - get it now during Easter Event!
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My biggest problem is if they were going to charge you a ridiculous fee why not warn people? It's pretty crummy to charge real money for skill reset in the first place but to not warn people is shady.
Well, welcome to Korean mmo's, honestly. Almost all korean mmo's use some form of "buy a skill reset if you fuck up" system for skill points, and it's really dumb. It's honestly why reading guides is super important when going into a f2p mmo, or if you're playing the game in general, I just leveled basically no skills until I got higher and knew which ones were good from reading a guide.
As it stands, even if they're giving out reset tickets and not tree resets, at least it's a solution. Even if it's only from events, it's better than nothing if you ask me. Besides that, you can't severely fuck up your build. Not really. You have so much free SP at level 55 if you max only the essentials, but at level 60, that's where we start to be tight on SP. That's where you actually can... severely fuck up. And that scares me. At the same time though, you get a free tree reset from the quest.
EDIT: Not trying to defend it at all, but it's something we've all grown used to when it comes to F2P MMOs. Most F2P MMOs follow this format, and it's really scummy, but at least you're not punished nearly as hard in this game for it. Not until advancements, at least. -
My biggest problem is if they were going to charge you a ridiculous fee why not warn people? It's pretty crummy to charge real money for skill reset in the first place but to not warn people is shady.
Well, welcome to Korean mmo's, honestly. Almost all korean mmo's use some form of "buy a skill reset if you fuck up" system for skill points, and it's really dumb. It's honestly why reading guides is super important when going into a f2p mmo, or if you're playing the game in general, I just leveled basically no skills until I got higher and knew which ones were good from reading a guide.
As it stands, even if they're giving out reset tickets and not tree resets, at least it's a solution. Even if it's only from events, it's better than nothing if you ask me. Besides that, you can't severely fuck up your build. Not really. You have so much free SP at level 55 if you max only the essentials, but at level 60, that's where we start to be tight on SP. That's where you actually can... severely fuck up. And that scares me. At the same time though, you get a free tree reset from the quest.
EDIT: Not trying to defend it at all, but it's something we've all grown used to when it comes to F2P MMOs. Most F2P MMOs follow this format, and it's really scummy, but at least you're not punished nearly as hard in this game for it. Not until advancements, at least.I have played alot of f2p mom and never seen this. Maybe I just use to dealing with slightly better companies. I keep hearing "that is the way it is". You guys sound like a abused partner. This game has fun anime characters and fun combat but it treats you horrible as a consumer. Why do you defend it so much?
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All this work for something that doesnt even wipe all your skillz. Then you have to grind super hard to 5 days straight on all your characters. LOL wow just wow. #Soulcrusheronline
Damn, 5 minutes of work per character. super hard indeed.
Still not worth. You do you homie. Happy Easter
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The better question is why you haven't quit if you hate it so much. I'm going to be honest, it's very tiring seeing the same 1-3 people constantly posting in almost EVERY topic, even unrelated ones about how much they hate the company that was nice enough to purchase licensing to bring this game to our side of the world, or about the decisions made to attempt to keep it running.
I think what frustrates me is everyone's arguments clearly have no experience in how licensing companies work and operate, and just fuel the flames of people that may be frustrated for one reason or another with falsehoods.
Honestly I wish blocking people's posts entirely was enabled on the forums, because it's tiring. Especially in instances of you, who almost every single post on these forums has been a negative one or attempts to riot the masses.
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I have played alot of f2p mom and never seen this. Maybe I just use to dealing with slightly better companies. I keep hearing "that is the way it is". You guys sound like a abused partner. This game has fun anime characters and fun combat but it treats you horrible as a consumer. Why do you defend it so much?
I even edited my post to say that I wasn't defending it. This IS quite normal in an f2p mmo from Korea, that's the thing. It has nothing to do with companies. BDO does it, Dragon Nest does it, C9 does it, and this game does it. Many other games, too. Elsword does this as well, iirc. Even Grand Chase.
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Well, welcome to Korean mmo's, honestly. Almost all korean mmo's use some form of "buy a skill reset if you fuck up" system for skill points
Blade and Soul lets you freely switch between skills and builds as much as you want.
Closers charges you ingame currency to lower the skill levels, but the cost is negligible as you make many times that amount in a single dungeon run that takes 1-2 minutes.
DFO lets you do whatever you want with skills and skill points.
That's not "most", but those are some of the bigger ones in the west atm.
It should also be noted that worldwide, BnS and DFO are in the top 10 highest grossing f2p mmos.
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I have played alot of f2p mom and never seen this. Maybe I just use to dealing with slightly better companies. I keep hearing "that is the way it is". You guys sound like a abused partner. This game has fun anime characters and fun combat but it treats you horrible as a consumer. Why do you defend it so much?
I even edited my post to say that I wasn't defending it. This IS quite normal in an f2p mmo from Korea, that's the thing. It has nothing to do with companies. BDO does it, Dragon Nest does it, C9 does it, and this game does it. Many other games, too. Elsword does this as well, iirc. Even Grand Chase.
BDO does it, but the publisher (Kakoa) listened to the players and got the developers (Pearl Abyss) to make skill resets free and unlimited until level 56, which is pretty good considering the soft cap is level 61.
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I have played alot of f2p mom and never seen this. Maybe I just use to dealing with slightly better companies. I keep hearing "that is the way it is". You guys sound like a abused partner. This game has fun anime characters and fun combat but it treats you horrible as a consumer. Why do you defend it so much?
I even edited my post to say that I wasn't defending it. This IS quite normal in an f2p mmo from Korea, that's the thing. It has nothing to do with companies. BDO does it, Dragon Nest does it, C9 does it, and this game does it. Many other games, too. Elsword does this as well, iirc. Even Grand Chase.
This used to be the norm "back in the day", but as Komari mentioned above, some successful Korean "MMORPG"s have moved on from this. Once upon a time, DFO pretty much had the same thing as SoulWorker does right now, but after many years DFO finally removed skill reset items entirely and now resets are free and unlimited. Maybe if SoulWorker survives long enough they will eventually do something similar. I guess the difference is that SoulWorker isn't doing nearly as well in comparison to some other Korean games offering resets for free (at least in some form), so they kind of need the money from reset items.
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All this work for something that doesnt even wipe all your skillz. Then you have to grind super hard to 5 days straight on all your characters. LOL wow just wow. #Soulcrusheronline
Damn, 5 minutes of work per character. super hard indeed.
Still not worth. You do you homie. Happy Easter
Worth is relative, but 20 minutes of effort a day for 5 days is not "super hard" by any means.
I'm not saying it's good or even particularly rewarding, but it's not hard. Even just calling it tedious would be a stretch.
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All this work for something that doesnt even wipe all your skillz. Then you have to grind super hard to 5 days straight on all your characters. LOL wow just wow. #Soulcrusheronline
Damn, 5 minutes of work per character. super hard indeed.
Still not worth. You do you homie. Happy Easter
Worth is relative, but 20 minutes of effort a day for 5 days is not "super hard" by any means.
I'm not saying it's good or even particularly rewarding, but it's not hard. Even just calling it tedious would be a stretch.
First of all you didn't tell me Happy Easter. Not cool. Second you are right it's easy.
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First of all you didn't tell me Happy Easter. Not cool. Second you are right it's easy.
Hold on now, Easter is around the corner. I'm sure you will be told soon. 5 more days, and everyone can get wishes, ez.
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I guess the difference is that SoulWorker isn't doing nearly as well in comparison to some other Korean games offering resets for free (at least in some form), so they kind of need the money from reset items.
It doesn't really matter how well it does in Korea since GameForge has nothing to do with that market. What matters is how well it does here in the west and that is yet to be determined.
BDO wasn't doing well in Korea either. But Kakao (their NA/EU publisher) listened to the player's feedback and got Pearl Abyss (the developers) to give unlimited free skill resets until lv56. Fast forward to present and BDO is one of the most successful Korean MMO imports we've had in recent years here in the west. And I'm not saying that giving free resets alone resulted in their success, but rather that just because the game isn't doing well in Korea doesn't mean they NEED to make money from reset items here in the west as you suggested.
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Am I the only one noticing that the wording of the Event Skill Reset is different from the Cash Shop one? At least in German. It could very well reset a single skill completely to zero regardless of how many points it has. Someone should probably make a ticket about it. I am to lazy and don't really care.
You get free resets once most money is milked out o the players. For now one full reset once you reach cap would be nice, but that's all. Maybe at like level 30 or 40 another one. This really isn't Jogging to have a big impact on the game.
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Doing Steel Graves can complete the event quest. Also, I don't know how people could mess up on their skill tree..
Because most people new to the game leveled skills they were using and there was much uncertainty as to what to go for the various characters. People level and realize that some of the choices weren't good and now they want to change that.
What's hard to understand about that.
I knew a comment like this would happen. I personally use guides so I don't ruin my skill tree in the future. It doesn't matter if you're new or not, reading the skills Is common sense. The game has been out for a few years now, there's tons of guides out there. :).
There are people who might try to do their own build and experiment. Guides are not the 10/10 guidelines you're portraying them as in this topic. Plenty of guides are written by people who think they are gurus on the class after playing it for two days, so often it can be better to just go by trial and error.
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Doing Steel Graves can complete the event quest. Also, I don't know how people could mess up on their skill tree..
Because most people new to the game leveled skills they were using and there was much uncertainty as to what to go for the various characters. People level and realize that some of the choices weren't good and now they want to change that.
What's hard to understand about that.
I knew a comment like this would happen. I personally use guides so I don't ruin my skill tree in the future. It doesn't matter if you're new or not, reading the skills Is common sense. The game has been out for a few years now, there's tons of guides out there. :).
There are people who might try to do their own build and experiment. Guides are not the 10/10 guidelines you're portraying them as in this topic. Plenty of guides are written by people who think they are gurus on the class after playing it for two days, so often it can be better to just go by trial and error.
If you read my other posts, I use them for MY own research. I'm not forcing anyone to use guides, and Ive never portrayed guides as accurate. I said it helped me for MY own research SO I don't have to do spend money and "experiment" on skills. To summarize it for you, I was wondering how people could mess up on their skill tree aside from being new. I mentioned how guides had helped ME, and if you don't want to take that route, reading the SKILLS is common sense regardless if you're new or not.
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Doing Steel Graves can complete the event quest. Also, I don't know how people could mess up on their skill tree..
Because most people new to the game leveled skills they were using and there was much uncertainty as to what to go for the various characters. People level and realize that some of the choices weren't good and now they want to change that.
What's hard to understand about that.
I knew a comment like this would happen. I personally use guides so I don't ruin my skill tree in the future. It doesn't matter if you're new or not, reading the skills Is common sense. The game has been out for a few years now, there's tons of guides out there. :).
There are people who might try to do their own build and experiment. Guides are not the 10/10 guidelines you're portraying them as in this topic. Plenty of guides are written by people who think they are gurus on the class after playing it for two days, so often it can be better to just go by trial and error.
If you read my other posts, I use them for MY own research. I'm not forcing anyone to use guides, and Ive never portrayed guides as accurate. I said it helped me for MY own research SO I don't have to do spend money and "experiment" on skills. To summarize it for you, I was wondering how people could mess up on their skill tree aside from being new. I mentioned how guides had helped ME, and if you don't want to take that route, reading the SKILLS is common sense regardless if you're new or not.
And people might come to conclusions with the same guides available but change their minds later on, thus needing a skill reset. I also looked at a couple of guides prior to the start of the game, but changed things back and forth to see what actually works better for me as a person.
