Server merge, a deep idea

What's my opinion? Of course i like to have a crowded server.

I'm sure there was another thread about this yesterday, and you can expect people saying: "omg it's open beta and u talk already about merge!!!" "i don't like to read "insert language here" in general chat"

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What's my opinion? Of course i like to have a crowded server.

I'm sure there was another thread about this yesterday, and you can expect people saying: "omg it's open beta and u talk already about merge!!!" "i don't like to read "insert language here" in general chat"

EU Servers needs a fusion ASAP

I have to agree with the idea that there are too many servers. It isn't even that the community loses players, all FTP games receive a large income of players when they released, and a substantial amount of them don't stay long.

While I understand game forge has been very optimistic with providing so many servers, we should not forget that soulworker is kinda a niche game so we can't expect millions of players.

Europe isn't that big, we can consider ourselves lucky that Russia doesn't have its own server because they bring us a lot of active players.

But that isn't enough.

We can do with two servers, NA and EU. This would help to keep players from leaving their server because the community isn't large enough !

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Hello, i'm a player form ES server, a server where many people left the game due to the lack of content, people and trade (ES server got affected so hard by the block and we lost more than 60% of the player base). I've been reading some people and I realized that other servers have some troubles with the lack of people too. Because of that, i've been thinking about a merge where we all win. So here are my ideas:

1- GameForge do a merge for all european servers.

2-GameForge change the name for the channels from CH. 1, CH. 2, CH. 3, CH. 4, etc. to EN, EN, ES, ES, FR, etc.

3-GameForge gives us an option to select our prefered language so we will always be in our prefered channel.

4-GameForge keeps the option to skip from a channel to another channel manually.

This way we get:

-More people to join party with us with the autoparty tool.

-More and better trade.

-Every community still exist even we don't have a specific server but specific channels.

-Language barrier doesn't exist.

-We all win with this option.

Let me see your opinion about that.

I honestly don't know what server you are from. But Where I am at there are to many people for that. Waaaay to many people. NO just no. Im not sure what you all are looking for as for a population in a game. I have now clue . I see people chat in normal "lF etc" and its like maybe 5 min and its then "lf etc -1).

For one all of the content is fairly easy. GC is ehh just for the lvl diff but even that gets cleared very very often. Given the amount of new gear and weapons we have in the market. No i cannot agree with the server merger or changing of channels. If a person wants to be around more people just simply look at which channel has the most people (not sure why that's necessary but to each their own).

And if you have ever played any of gameforge games then you would know....NOTHING good ever comes out of them merging servers. EVER if and when they do it is basically a sign that the game is dead. (examples Runes of Magic, and Aion). They don't give not one damn about what you asking for. The only reason they merge servers is for the same of making them more money. AKA meaning the population is to low. Once they start merging servers .....yea its trouble.

I can agree with you on the channels though. I do not see a reason for there to be freakin 20 channels lol. Even though I"m not one of those people that are social butterflies or aspiring to me. The amount of people in a channel means nothing to me for the most part. In fact im glad there are quite a few of the channels. Come on who the hell wants be be stuck in a channel with some jackasses constantly spamming and emote? Or watching endless afk dancing....the list goes on.

As for the language......I honestly have no clue where to even start here. They clearly labeled which server is what before you even can make a character. Granted in game some speak in other languages. (god dragon next had that shit solved didn't they? XD ). In almost ever MMO people are still going to wanna play in other countries and search for people that speakin their own language (......WTF logic is there in this? beats the hell out of me). So most of us are use to it that love to game.

For one thing, I think your not understanding that this is not a traditional MMO. This is basically a dungeon crawler where ya can party up with people. Truthfully im amazed that the population has stayed this high considering that all the content has been cleared. And with the exception of GC it has been done months ago. Yet people still log in. Its kinda interesting. I wonder how long that will last though? hmmm

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Hello, i'm a player form ES server, a server where many people left the game due to the lack of content, people and trade (ES server got affected so hard by the block and we lost more than 60% of the player base). I've been reading some people and I realized that other servers have some troubles with the lack of people too. Because of that, i've been thinking about a merge where we all win. So here are my ideas:

1- GameForge do a merge for all european servers.

2-GameForge change the name for the channels from CH. 1, CH. 2, CH. 3, CH. 4, etc. to EN, EN, ES, ES, FR, etc.

3-GameForge gives us an option to select our prefered language so we will always be in our prefered channel.

4-GameForge keeps the option to skip from a channel to another channel manually.

This way we get:

-More people to join party with us with the autoparty tool.

-More and better trade.

-Every community still exist even we don't have a specific server but specific channels.

-Language barrier doesn't exist.

-We all win with this option.

Let me see your opinion about that.

I honestly don't know what server you are from. But Where I am at there are to many people for that. Waaaay to many people. NO just no. Im not sure what you all are looking for as for a population in a game. I have now clue . I see people chat in normal "lF etc" and its like maybe 5 min and its then "lf etc -1).

For one all of the content is fairly easy. GC is ehh just for the lvl diff but even that gets cleared very very often. Given the amount of new gear and weapons we have in the market. No i cannot agree with the server merger or changing of channels. If a person wants to be around more people just simply look at which channel has the most people (not sure why that's necessary but to each their own).

And if you have ever played any of gameforge games then you would know....NOTHING good ever comes out of them merging servers. EVER if and when they do it is basically a sign that the game is dead. (examples Runes of Magic, and Aion). They don't give not one damn about what you asking for. The only reason they merge servers is for the same of making them more money. AKA meaning the population is to low. Once they start merging servers .....yea its trouble.

I can agree with you on the channels though. I do not see a reason for there to be freakin 20 channels lol. Even though I"m not one of those people that are social butterflies or aspiring to me. The amount of people in a channel means nothing to me for the most part. In fact im glad there are quite a few of the channels. Come on who the hell wants be be stuck in a channel with some jackasses constantly spamming and emote? Or watching endless afk dancing....the list goes on.

As for the language......I honestly have no clue where to even start here. They clearly labeled which server is what before you even can make a character. Granted in game some speak in other languages. (god dragon next had that shit solved didn't they? XD ). In almost ever MMO people are still going to wanna play in other countries and search for people that speakin their own language (......WTF logic is there in this? beats the hell out of me). So most of us are use to it that love to game.

For one thing, I think your not understanding that this is not a traditional MMO. This is basically a dungeon crawler where ya can party up with people. Truthfully im amazed that the population has stayed this high considering that all the content has been cleared. And with the exception of GC it has been done months ago. Yet people still log in. Its kinda interesting. I wonder how long that will last though? hmmm

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Why do you even comment if you didnt read it? You start saying "i dont know what server are you from" and my first phrase is "Im a player from ES server".

Anyway, many servers are dead, if you play on a TOP server, you can't see the problems we have in little servers. On ES server, sometimes we keep looking for party for 30 mins (not me, i'm in a good guild and i have party 24/7), but there are other players apart of me who, so yeah, why sould they keep 30 mins lookign for party?

The comerce is ridiculous, always the same items on market from the same person, nothing new.

This game is actually dying for little servers, the lack of people is so dangerous for us, since many people got bored of the game due to that (lack of people to find part, lack of people to sell/buy things, etc.)

Even if you can't have empathy for little servers, we still need a merge.

By the way, you play NA, the most or the second more populated server

You only have to see this graphic: http://steamcharts.com/app/630100

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EU is bigger than NA, when you add all the servers PL, AS, FR, GR.

EN however is smaller than NA; just compare the market listings.

My estimates are derived from empirical fact.

Peak users = 4x Lowest users

Prime Time = Peak Time for X Servers

Difference between Peak EU and Peak NA + fraction of EU on + fraction of NA on

Take minimum online of EU and NA

Use market listings data

Use forums activity data

Use discord trading data

Estimates

NA 26% EN 25% (598)
DE 16% (380)
FR 14% (334)

PL 7% (139)
ES 6% (119)
IT 6% (114)

Gen discussion more representative

363 thread - 54%

68 thread - 10.2%

96 thread - 14.4%

79 thread - 11.9%

25 thread - 3.7%

32 thread - 4.8%

663 thread

Actually that would hit the market a lot. The bigger server have way bigger income than the smaller ones therefore making it quite unfair. But if population decrease a lot it does make sense to merge them

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*Mass Inflation*

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Hello, i'm a player form ES server, a server where many people left the game due to the lack of content, people and trade (ES server got affected so hard by the block and we lost more than 60% of the player base). I've been reading some people and I realized that other servers have some troubles with the lack of people too. Because of that, i've been thinking about a merge where we all win. So here are my ideas:

1- GameForge do a merge for all european servers.

2-GameForge change the name for the channels from CH. 1, CH. 2, CH. 3, CH. 4, etc. to EN, EN, ES, ES, FR, etc.

3-GameForge gives us an option to select our prefered language so we will always be in our prefered channel.

4-GameForge keeps the option to skip from a channel to another channel manually.

This way we get:

-More people to join party with us with the autoparty tool.

-More and better trade.

-Every community still exist even we don't have a specific server but specific channels.

-Language barrier doesn't exist.

-We all win with this option.

Let me see your opinion about that.

I honestly don't know what server you are from. But Where I am at there are to many people for that. Waaaay to many people. NO just no. Im not sure what you all are looking for as for a population in a game. I have now clue . I see people chat in normal "lF etc" and its like maybe 5 min and its then "lf etc -1).

For one all of the content is fairly easy. GC is ehh just for the lvl diff but even that gets cleared very very often. Given the amount of new gear and weapons we have in the market. No i cannot agree with the server merger or changing of channels. If a person wants to be around more people just simply look at which channel has the most people (not sure why that's necessary but to each their own).

And if you have ever played any of gameforge games then you would know....NOTHING good ever comes out of them merging servers. EVER if and when they do it is basically a sign that the game is dead. (examples Runes of Magic, and Aion). They don't give not one damn about what you asking for. The only reason they merge servers is for the same of making them more money. AKA meaning the population is to low. Once they start merging servers .....yea its trouble.

I can agree with you on the channels though. I do not see a reason for there to be freakin 20 channels lol. Even though I"m not one of those people that are social butterflies or aspiring to me. The amount of people in a channel means nothing to me for the most part. In fact im glad there are quite a few of the channels. Come on who the hell wants be be stuck in a channel with some jackasses constantly spamming and emote? Or watching endless afk dancing....the list goes on.

As for the language......I honestly have no clue where to even start here. They clearly labeled which server is what before you even can make a character. Granted in game some speak in other languages. (god dragon next had that shit solved didn't they? XD ). In almost ever MMO people are still going to wanna play in other countries and search for people that speakin their own language (......WTF logic is there in this? beats the hell out of me). So most of us are use to it that love to game.

For one thing, I think your not understanding that this is not a traditional MMO. This is basically a dungeon crawler where ya can party up with people. Truthfully im amazed that the population has stayed this high considering that all the content has been cleared. And with the exception of GC it has been done months ago. Yet people still log in. Its kinda interesting. I wonder how long that will last though? hmmm

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Why do you even comment if you didnt read it? You start saying "i dont know what server are you from" and my first phrase is "Im a player from ES server".

Anyway, many servers are dead, if you play on a TOP server, you can't see the problems we have in little servers. On ES server, sometimes we keep looking for party for 30 mins (not me, i'm in a good guild and i have party 24/7), but there are other players apart of me who, so yeah, why sould they keep 30 mins lookign for party?

The comerce is ridiculous, always the same items on market from the same person, nothing new.

This game is actually dying for little servers, the lack of people is so dangerous for us, since many people got bored of the game due to that (lack of people to find part, lack of people to sell/buy things, etc.)

Even if you can't have empathy for little servers, we still need a merge.

By the way, you play NA, the most or the second more populated server

You only have to see this graphic: http://steamcharts.com/app/630100

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EU is bigger than NA, when you add all the servers PL, AS, FR, GR.

EN however is smaller than NA; just compare the market listings.

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sure it is gameforge is an EU based company is it not? and i though the question was NA vs EN not EU. if thats the case though i still would like to see the numbers because considering the USA alone has more people than all of the EU it would be interesting ( 3 largest country in the world). But to add on to that NA counts Canada, Mexico and quite a few of the other Latin countries. Any way thats besides the point. NA is larger than EN

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Hello, i'm a player form ES server, a server where many people left the game due to the lack of content, people and trade (ES server got affected so hard by the block and we lost more than 60% of the player base). I've been reading some people and I realized that other servers have some troubles with the lack of people too. Because of that, i've been thinking about a merge where we all win. So here are my ideas:

1- GameForge do a merge for all european servers.

2-GameForge change the name for the channels from CH. 1, CH. 2, CH. 3, CH. 4, etc. to EN, EN, ES, ES, FR, etc.

3-GameForge gives us an option to select our prefered language so we will always be in our prefered channel.

4-GameForge keeps the option to skip from a channel to another channel manually.

This way we get:

-More people to join party with us with the autoparty tool.

-More and better trade.

-Every community still exist even we don't have a specific server but specific channels.

-Language barrier doesn't exist.

-We all win with this option.

Let me see your opinion about that.

I honestly don't know what server you are from. But Where I am at there are to many people for that. Waaaay to many people. NO just no. Im not sure what you all are looking for as for a population in a game. I have now clue . I see people chat in normal "lF etc" and its like maybe 5 min and its then "lf etc -1).

For one all of the content is fairly easy. GC is ehh just for the lvl diff but even that gets cleared very very often. Given the amount of new gear and weapons we have in the market. No i cannot agree with the server merger or changing of channels. If a person wants to be around more people just simply look at which channel has the most people (not sure why that's necessary but to each their own).

And if you have ever played any of gameforge games then you would know....NOTHING good ever comes out of them merging servers. EVER if and when they do it is basically a sign that the game is dead. (examples Runes of Magic, and Aion). They don't give not one damn about what you asking for. The only reason they merge servers is for the same of making them more money. AKA meaning the population is to low. Once they start merging servers .....yea its trouble.

I can agree with you on the channels though. I do not see a reason for there to be freakin 20 channels lol. Even though I"m not one of those people that are social butterflies or aspiring to me. The amount of people in a channel means nothing to me for the most part. In fact im glad there are quite a few of the channels. Come on who the hell wants be be stuck in a channel with some jackasses constantly spamming and emote? Or watching endless afk dancing....the list goes on.

As for the language......I honestly have no clue where to even start here. They clearly labeled which server is what before you even can make a character. Granted in game some speak in other languages. (god dragon next had that shit solved didn't they? XD ). In almost ever MMO people are still going to wanna play in other countries and search for people that speakin their own language (......WTF logic is there in this? beats the hell out of me). So most of us are use to it that love to game.

For one thing, I think your not understanding that this is not a traditional MMO. This is basically a dungeon crawler where ya can party up with people. Truthfully im amazed that the population has stayed this high considering that all the content has been cleared. And with the exception of GC it has been done months ago. Yet people still log in. Its kinda interesting. I wonder how long that will last though? hmmm

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Why do you even comment if you didnt read it? You start saying "i dont know what server are you from" and my first phrase is "Im a player from ES server".

Anyway, many servers are dead, if you play on a TOP server, you can't see the problems we have in little servers. On ES server, sometimes we keep looking for party for 30 mins (not me, i'm in a good guild and i have party 24/7), but there are other players apart of me who, so yeah, why sould they keep 30 mins lookign for party?

The comerce is ridiculous, always the same items on market from the same person, nothing new.

This game is actually dying for little servers, the lack of people is so dangerous for us, since many people got bored of the game due to that (lack of people to find part, lack of people to sell/buy things, etc.)

Even if you can't have empathy for little servers, we still need a merge.

By the way, you play NA, the most or the second more populated server

You only have to see this graphic: http://steamcharts.com/app/630100

I think the one that did not read is you my friend. Merging solves nothing. And yes indeed I play NA because its where im from ^_^. You not understanding what im saying. What i am saying is merging in MMO's is simply a last resort for a company to try to make money and its just not happening. Those regions exist for a reason. (as if you read previous post I have made. Different places pay different amounts for the CS) Anyhow. Its true that i do not emphasis with you at all because most of the Spanish community i know plays on NA. Most of us tend to speak both or at least have a good understanding.

So basically you wish for the game to merge your server for you to have a chance at getting parties faster o.O. Well ya picked the wrong one. I can't tell you the number of Spanish speaking guild on NA (its alot) so not f'in clue why you are like one of the hand full that didn't know we speak Spanish and decided to play on ES........Come on now my country is the land that loves and hates immigrants haha.(they confused and forget they were once immigrants to *shakes head) Lets make them pissed off together! Join NA XD!!! J/K.

On a serious note I have never played on ES so i really don't have much of a place to say where you need a merge or not. However the most likely country would look to be NA for many reason. However as i have stated in previous post ....yea our economy is something that would certainly not give you a good solution to your problem. NA is not all roses by any means either. Its grindy as hell to keep up with the market prices. Not to mention that the playing hours would be different. All joking aside there are alot of complications with what your asking for.

Ask yourself this. 1. which servers should they merge yours with. 2. will it make a diff due to the time difference if there is one. 3. will i be able to make it in that economy. 4. If merged will the hosting change? and if so to where? 5. cash shop prices ( i think NA pays the most...not sure any more). And as you know our server stays down the most off all the countries. gg gameforge gg >.>. So, please don't think that any server is perfect. Nor should you carry the gumption that it would make a difference for your game play.

Unlike most trolls i really am just telling you my though's with some merit. I don't see it solving anything. That's said from past experiences. Sure you will see an influx of players but it will die down again to be in most cases worst than what you had experienced before the merger. In actuality it more likely than not would do more harm to a heavily populated server. Severs in MMO are like another world type of aspect. Each works in its own way.

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Tbh idk why gameforge did en/es/fr/it/pl servers and only one NA server. But I agree, all the other european servers except EN are dead, if you don't have a guild or many friends you end up afkin for 30 mins/1 hour looking for a hecking party and sometimes there's no one at all (GC for example, I rarely have 3 friends online for it). In the end if they won't merge the only ones left there playing will be the whales that invested buncha money and time but they'll eventually quit as well.

I hope they plan merging the servers, even KR did so and they had only 2.

EU servers are almost dead, GC is empty 24/7... o_O We need a Merge ASAP!!!!

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EU servers are almost dead, GC is empty 24/7... o_O We need a Merge ASAP!!!!

lies!!!! one guy says ya more pop than NA by far. look at his spread sheets *_*

Love the idea. +1

lol dont think this is a great idea considering the inflation

I agree on merging the servers as soon as possible but it's not that deep of an idea, any company with a brain would have already merged by now. we have like 3k players split 50% on NA and the other half across the european servers, just merge them already gameforge, its the only thing you can do to keep your players. (well not like any1 from gameforge actually reads the forum lul)

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EU servers are almost dead, GC is empty 24/7... o_O We need a Merge ASAP!!!!

Heeeey some guy was saying that the EU was more played than NA. So you cannot be right! just trolling of course lol. EN suppose to have alot of people. If ya cannot tell I have no desire for a server merger with NA and anyone. I like it as it is. We honestly have it okay at the moment. However ehh i suppose more people would not be a bad things.

However this company ....yea its just not how it works. Its not like how people have been saying it here will play out. Trust me ask the Aion players and Runes of Magic players. Its an epic fail of an idea.

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I agree on merging the servers as soon as possible but it's not that deep of an idea, any company with a brain would have already merged by now. we have like 3k players split 50% on NA and the other half across the european servers, just merge them already gameforge, its the only thing you can do to keep your players. (well not like any1 from gameforge actually reads the forum lul)

No you just dont know this company. They give two damns less about what will increase player base. What they are looking at is who is spending money. And every "EVERY" game they have done such ideas on is suffering like no other. Different regions have different play styles. If its not making it in another area it just means the majority does not want to play it.

I would honestly love for all to be satisfied however being realistic. That will never happen. If there were server mergers the first thing any vet. mmo player would think is "the game is in trouble". But its not. Its just in certain regions. And GF knows this already. They are watching the money spent and from where. Simply put those from other regions will migrate on their own to the more populated regions. And GF knows this from exp. Now when that dont work they will just throw everyone together. Which more likely than not will result in many vet. players just quiting (ex. Aion and Runes of Magic). Merging solves nothing. Its like putting a band aid on a wound that's far deeper.

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I agree on merging the servers as soon as possible but it's not that deep of an idea, any company with a brain would have already merged by now. we have like 3k players split 50% on NA and the other half across the european servers, just merge them already gameforge, its the only thing you can do to keep your players. (well not like any1 from gameforge actually reads the forum lul)

No you just dont know this company. They give two damns less about what will increase player base. What they are looking at is who is spending money. And every "EVERY" game they have done such ideas on is suffering like no other. Different regions have different play styles. If its not making it in another area it just means the majority does not want to play it.

I would honestly love for all to be satisfied however being realistic. That will never happen. If there were server mergers the first thing any vet. mmo player would think is "the game is in trouble". But its not. Its just in certain regions. And GF knows this already. They are watching the money spent and from where. Simply put those from other regions will migrate on their own to the more populated regions. And GF knows this from exp. Now when that dont work they will just throw everyone together. Which more likely than not will result in many vet. players just quiting (ex. Aion and Runes of Magic). Merging solves nothing. Its like putting a band aid on a wound that's far deeper.

Merging the servers will actually put all cashers in one place and thus increase the supply of premium stuff.

The reason why GF makes so many servers to begin with is because of a very old game GF had tremendous succes with in Europe. A game which functions in the exact opposite way newer asian mmo grinders do.

GF is used to "the more servers = the better", which is absolutely false nowadays. They're not stupid or doing it on purpose, they just don't get it.

Anyways, as somebody who knows this company for over a decade I can say that we're somewhat safe no matter what. Like in their whole existence GF never ever ditched any of their games/servers with a service closure and that's respectable. Like not even ultra dead games were ever closed. This game's situation can only improve. If u ask me getting rid of the bots should be like top priority, number 1 on their list. The merge can wait.