"Micro" things i don't like about this game (mainly in interfaces)

    Level 55 and 260 hours in. Quitting the game mainly because of how end game is managed and because PVP mode is one of the most unbalanced things i ever seen in a videogame (it's not a joke), but i won't cover that in this post. What i'll cover in this post is a list of "micro" errors that bothered me, mainly in menus and interfaces, that i filled in while levelling.

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    • Brooch are unsellable and undiscardable even if there is a "brooch" section in the market. The only way to get rid of them is either to fusing them by buying a "fuser" with grutin coins, or to "overwrite" them by equipping a brooch over a previously equipped brooch. By the way, while doing so, you'll get prompted "Are you sure you want to xxx? Currently equipped brooch will be removed."; but it's not gonna be removed, it's gonna be destroyed!
    • In almost every menu (items, guild members, friends, market, akasha cards...) there's no basic SEARCH function (cards menu!!!), and you can't sort by an attribute, multi-select elements etc. And when there's a search function, you gotta use capital initial letters, like in 90's. At the beggining, i used to thought market search bar just didn't work
    • In "profile" menu there are several unused stats AFAIK (fire/poison/electric/bleed/stun/paralysis resistance) In "achievement emblem" section, under "info" tab in "profile" menu there are some unused sections Those buttons are unused at the moment: https://i.imgur.com/tAglmji.png
    • You can't preview blueprints fashion items (!!!)
    • You cannot see offline friends level or info, or send them a PM (you gotta memorize and rewrite their name)
    • You are never told the amount of SoulPoints you get is not enough to level up every skill, which can make you have to buy skill reset with real money
    • You are never told how partial damage/evade/accuracy works; those stats only count when fighting enemies at least 2-3 level above yours Also, when landing an hit that "MISS", you are not actually missing that hit, that's just a partial hit (why???)
    • For some reason Grutin Coins aren't shown in the currencies menu
    • When descending those stairway things in Ruin Fortress, your character just doesn't "stay stuck" on the ground: they just do this little jump like if there was moon gravity, which is not a problem itself, but it does INTERRUPT your running, so you have to start running again; which thing, by the way, makes your character have to stop moving for a second. It's very annoying. I'm talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/ISZWfbR.jpg -https://i.imgur.com/wzA3F3q.jpg
    • Daily quests that want you to add a guy with "x weapon" or "xy titles" are just ridicolous
    • I'm not 100% sure but i think some hidden quests are unaccomplishing, like "obtain x soulnove before end of the district" appearing at the final rooms
    • Community related achievements are currently bugged or non existent
    • This is the first game in my life in which, if you play on "borderless fullscreen mode" you can accidentally drag game's window out of monitor borders
    • For somone reason you have to double-dash to get trough poison gas in Forgotten Armoury or one-shotting flames in Rucco Town, which is a mechanic that is never explained (???)
    • You can't check in which dungeon you have quests if you are in a party (actually a lot of times people i was playing with actually had to exit from party to check quests and then rejoin)

    OPTIONS:

    • You can't re-bind evasion or sprint because reasons
    • You can't disable shadows because reasons
    • You can't apply chat "filters" like in any other MMO, say, to "create" a custom chat channel with only guild chat and team chat, but no system messages spam. YOU ALSO GET A MESSAGE FOR E V E R Y S I N G L E D R O P you loot: https://i.imgur.com/lawA9HX.png
    • Some words like "server, soulworker, gameforge" are censored, while a lot of bad words like "fuck, dick, bitch" are not (???)
    • In order to see mini-boss glowing aura you have to enable motion blur option (?????)
    • IMPORTANT: "Target lock on" option feels so rushed. You can't bind it to some buttons (???), you can't remove lock (!!!) (i'm serious, pressing "target" button again only "cycle" enemies, and there is no "remove lock on" button) and it often gets all buggy when near a big sized locked on enemy

    BAD TRANSLATIONS:

    Refiners (imo), Magic Hammers' just say "dismantle", a lot of skills (especially passive ones), a lot of akasha cards i can provide examples if requested

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    • You are never told how partial damage/evade/accuracy works; those stats only count when fighting enemies at least 2-3 level above yours Also, when landing an hit that "MISS", you are not actually missing that hit, that's just a partial hit (why???)

    Accuracy is self-explanatory, I don't think this need to be said how it works.

    Evasion is also self-explanatory, when you are hit they miss or the other way around; however, the only difference is that when you miss, you take/do 50% of the total damage

    Partial damage isn't explained well. Partial damage is the make up for when you/get miss. So if you have an additional 10%(You start with 50%) then that means you will do 60% damage when you miss on an enemy than 50%.


    Also, it is false that those stats only count when fighting enemies at least 2-3 levels above yours. It always counts regardless of the level of an enemy.

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    • In "profile" menu there are several unused stats AFAIK (fire/poison/electric/bleed/stun/paralysis resistance)

    That's because those stats don't exist in this game? Correct me if I'm wrong, I can't log in into the game as of right now

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    • You can't preview blueprints fashion items (!!!)

    Because they are blueprints. There should be a version of it already crafted in market, if not then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    • You are never told the amount of SoulPoints you get is not enough to level up every skill, which can make you have to buy skill reset with real money

    Why would you level up every skill? I'm pretty sure there were tons of guides saying otherwise, and only using them on certain skills.

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    • For some reason Grutin Coins aren't shown in the currencies menu

    It is because it is a visual item you can drag and store.

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    • For somone reason you have to double-dash to get trough poison gas in Forgotten Armoury or one-shotting flames in Rucco Town, which is a mechanic that is never explained (???)

    What mechanic is never explained? The flames that kill you? I think you just answered your own question. If your dash is not long enough to get away from the poison/flame hitboxes, then you you will have to double dash, but I honestly have never double-dashed crossing those things. You were probably little far from the beginning. Also, you are supposed to wait until is gone for a few sec in rucco.

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    • You can't check in which dungeon you have quests if you are in a party (actually a lot of times people i was playing with actually had to exit from party to check quests and then rejoin)

    Have you ever tried pressing using the keyboard short-cut, "J"(I think it is)?

    dddd

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    Brooch are unsellable and undiscardable even if there is a "brooch" section in the market. The only way to get rid of them is either to fusing them by buying a "fuser" with grutin coins, or to "overwrite" them by equipping a brooch over a previously equipped brooch. By the way, while doing so, you'll get prompted "Are you sure you want to xxx? Currently equipped brooch will be removed."; but it's not gonna be removed, it's gonna be destroyed!

    It's currently very inconvenient, but you can buy/sell brooch with other players. Also it is speculated that it might be trade-able in the future. Maybe near future even.

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    You are never told the amount of SoulPoints you get is not enough to level up every skill, which can make you have to buy skill reset with real money

    I don't know. Do other MMOs tell you? If you want to be very careful about this, there is a simulator for you to use, trying your builds, etc. The recent Easter event also prove that you can get a single point skill reset (albeit for small mistake).


    Oh well. I'll stop here.

    "Guides exist for a reason"

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    Rewrite it in a less negativ way and put it here: Suggestions


    I am sure the devs are aware of this just didn't fin the time to optimize. It does take time not spend on content or items to sell and is does not provide any instant revenue. Of course stuff like the brooches are kind of game experience breaking. The search function are less so and may require more effort then they are worth, although you probably such mean a filter option.


    Edit: Some of those should go into bug section, some others are simply not implemented yet and some are just wrong assumptions.


    By the way dashing thing is explained in the tutorial. You have to actively dash to, I think it was 3, obstacles.

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    Sorry bro but all i can see on your post is negativity. trezert you said you played 200 + hrs of this game? Im on 416hrs bro but every singel day i learn something new about the game. In different aspects. Don’t get me wrong bro my 1st 2weeks of this game is horrible 1st is the hype thing and suddenly all the changes, bugs, patch notes etc. and i reach to that moment that why should i even play and pay for this game now. But i stayed and give this game a chance. And now i don’t even regret staying on this game even so many people (esp on forums) that are so negative on this game. This game is not perfect it has own flaws. 1 simple rule bro don’t let the other people dictate of what you want and how you enjoy something. Peace!

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    Sorry bro but all i can see on your post is negativity. trezert you said you played 200 + hrs of this game? Im on 416hrs bro but every singel day i learn something new about the game. In different aspects. Don’t get me wrong bro my 1st 2weeks of this game is horrible 1st is the hype thing and suddenly all the changes, bugs, patch notes etc. and i reach to that moment that why should i even play and pay for this game now. But i stayed and give this game a chance. And now i don’t even regret staying on this game even so many people (esp on forums) that are so negative on this game. This game is not perfect it has own flaws. 1 simple rule bro don’t let the other people dictate of what you want and how you enjoy something. Peace!

    Ok bro, i am not really sure why you are bringing stuff about other people being negative? I mean bro, no where in the OPs post did he mention his opinions being based on anything other then his own thoughts. Also bro of course the thread is gonna read as negative when he is listing out stuff that either didn't make sense to him design wise, or stuff he just didn't like about the way the UI works. I mean really bro.


    trezert Your post was fine, if you decide to post this in the suggestions section my only recommendation would be to add what you would like to changed when it comes to the stuff you listed.


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    Why would you level up every skill? I'm pretty sure there were tons of guides saying otherwise, and only using them on certain skills.

    I really hate this way of thinking, guides were not always around and people should never HAVE to read a guide in order to understand that there is only a few good ways to set skills unless you buy a cash shop item.

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    Brooch are unsellable and undiscardable even if there is a "brooch" section in the market. The only way to get rid of them is either to fusing them by buying a "fuser" with grutin coins, or to "overwrite" them by equipping a brooch over a previously equipped brooch. By the way, while doing so, you'll get prompted "Are you sure you want to xxx? Currently equipped brooch will be removed."; but it's not gonna be removed, it's gonna be destroyed!

    Agree about it, I lost a SD giga adamant because of this, should tried with low tier brooches but w/e.

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    You are never told the amount of SoulPoints you get is not enough to level up every skill, which can make you have to buy skill reset with real money


    You are never told how partial damage/evade/accuracy works; those stats only count when fighting enemies at least 2-3 level above yours Also, when landing an hit that "MISS", you are not actually missing that hit, that's just a partial hit (why???)

    Most of the game doesn't spoon fed players and read some guides I guess :/

    Yeah I'm sure they are quite annoying but tbh they are small issues and at least doesn't affect my gameplay. Community achievements need a fix tho but still small issues.


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    • You can't check in which dungeon you have quests if you are in a party (actually a lot of times people i was playing with actually had to exit from party to check quests and then rejoin)

    Have you ever tried pressing using the keyboard short-cut, "J"(I think it is)?

    You can check which dungeon with J but not episode.

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    You can't apply chat "filters" like in any other MMO, say, to "create" a custom chat channel with only guild chat and team chat, but no system messages spam. YOU ALSO GET A MESSAGE FOR E V E R Y S I N G L E D R O P you loot: https://i.imgur.com/lawA9HX.png

    You can, you need to right click the tab written 'Normal', and uncheck drops, exp, etc.

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    Sorry bro but all i can see on your post is negativity. trezert you said you played 200 + hrs of this game? Im on 416hrs bro but every singel day i learn something new about the game. In different aspects. Don’t get me wrong bro my 1st 2weeks of this game is horrible 1st is the hype thing and suddenly all the changes, bugs, patch notes etc. and i reach to that moment that why should i even play and pay for this game now. But i stayed and give this game a chance. And now i don’t even regret staying on this game even so many people (esp on forums) that are so negative on this game. This game is not perfect it has own flaws. 1 simple rule bro don’t let the other people dictate of what you want and how you enjoy something. Peace!

    I love that everyone co-sign on this but did you even read that he said before you typed this response? This game is terrible even by f2p standards. It could have been so great. However, the op was kind enough to at least give some feedback. If you are going to blindly support this game..at least be honest enough with yourself to see when someone is giving much needed criticism.