Lily's Carnage with Exalted Status

Yagyu4k

Yeah i agree Guillotine is nicely done skill when it comes to animation, but slow,small aoe, sometimes(like desync) its even hard to land it. Not talkin about pvp because.. well simply compared to other char ults, really the worst one. Would be cool atleast maybe to give some "root" (cc) to chained targets or something idk. Her advance is gonna be pain and im scared of that, because she is really behind nearly in every direction compared to others. Im hoping atleast for her revamp soon - slightly faster animations atleast + a lil dmg buff.. (still dont like her adv. passive idk. - my opinion) Sadly still unable to cancel triad anyway midair.. As far as i love Lily she would really use some "help" - rework of skill(s). But we can only hope of some "buff".

Well have fun. :3

Jolteon oh indeed! CC is kinda rare in SW (Except the stun by Jin,Stella and may Erwin)

Roots, slow effects might be really nice for her.

Her adv. passive is really strong but I dont like the way how to trigger it.

As I said in 1 another thread already, I'm working on new ability concepts with Rivertha (HOQ) actually. Feel free to tell us if you have any ideas, wishes, suggestions. We can lead it directly towards the team

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I'm working on new ability concepts with Rivertha (HOQ) actually. Feel free to tell us if you have any ideas, wishes, suggestions. We can lead it directly towards the team

Since when does the SW community promote diversity and the freedom of thought and speech? Stuff like this ain't happening and I'm the living proof of that. The people you want to talk are and will be afraid to expose their thoughts.

I don't mean that everything is coming, not every idea fits to class A or B but there are many ways to improve a game with the support of the community

"Blizzard days, the community helped a lot always"

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Menhit and Necro, good Lilys okay.

topic: To be honest i think Lily is okay, high risk high reward. Exalted on carnage might work, but it would be kinda op, so only for like 1-2s might be atleast something. But i dont think Lily wont get any change as this.

Yeah they are good Lilys, they have combat skills at least in EN

What are your thoughts and what are you trying to say?

I never played with these both together sadly (just a bit smalltalk or random moments in rifts)

But they're Lilys, reason enough to like them

Menhit is toxic, has been harassing me for a while, not allowed in our guild.

Lilly's chain should definitely root, never understood the whole pulling enemies, then letting them walk out.

High risk, sure, but the reward is most definitely not high.

If you wanna prove you have a basic understanding of Lilly's abilities, just 2-man LC, go to room 2, and clear half of wave 2 and wave 3 with a single rotation of your abilities.

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She is actually a very bad class, but I'm not talking about her "survivability"

Her damage is kinda low compared to a Haru/Erwin with the same gear.

Her ability kit is not really well designed but now the interesting part, her advance mode makes her a bit more viable.

She is still weak compared to Haru but her mobility is way better afterwards and she is able to cancel abilities without losing any damage.

Korea get a new buff soon which increase the casting speed of triad (based on speed) which helps a lot "especially with godlike 2x5% attack speed + DG 3x7% if HS.

But anyway I love carnage (a tiny defense buff sounds cool anyway)

All you have to do is it to let your procs (akashas) being up and use your phoon before + armorbreak combined with 3-5 smelter and click really fast. The damage is really really nice compared to her other abilities.

Anyway I enjoy her a lot (more than the other classes even in her current position). She give me what other can't provide me (not for long at least).

Korea confirmed that they failed a bit with her class design but they're working on it to use multiple abilities in the future instead of 1 combo and 1-2 additional abilities.

Which is why they buff her Culling a lot with the next patch.

I'm working on new class designs as well actually for upcoming contents to lead them towards Korea (A lot of brainstorming with HOQ/Rivertha everyday)

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Well in that case, how about letting Lillys damage scale with the combo counter? It doesn't have to be a lot, like just adding 1% damage and 1% attack speed for every 100 Combo, but unlike the existing combo buffs, those don't activate at random and remain permanent until you break the combo, so you want to reach high combos fast and keep them up as long as you can. I believe that would fit her character the best while increasing the worth of certain abilities such as Carnage, as well as helping deal with the weaknesses of skills like Triad and Guillotine by making them execute faster.

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Well in that case, how about letting Lillys damage scale with the combo counter? It doesn't have to be a lot, like just adding 1% damage and 1% attack speed for every 100 Combo, but unlike the existing combo buffs, those don't activate at random and remain permanent until you break the combo, so you want to reach high combos fast and keep them up as long as you can. I believe that would fit her character the best while increasing the worth of certain abilities such as Carnage, as well as helping deal with the weaknesses of skills like Triad and Guillotine by making them execute faster.

Combo Counter sounds very very nice, good for endcontent but may a bit weak for speed runs (farming).

But the idea is really decent, thanks for that!

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If you wanna prove you have a basic understanding of Lilly's abilities, just 2-man LC, go to room 2, and clear half of wave 2 and wave 3 with a single rotation of your abilities.

LC room 2 is the most fun room with her, 1 side haru, 1 side lily. The pressure is insane