Drop Weapon & Blueprint for the class you playing

  • That surely dont be read,



    But nothing is more frustrating to drop all class except yours again and again in dungeon.

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  • The whole gearing up process is faulty asf:

    -why is raid gear useless when it is supposed to be the next step towards gearing up? like it's utter dog shit in terms of viability.

    -if the vicarious set is given so much viability in terms of stats, why is it locked behind such a cancer farm experience? - the drop rate is abysmal and the dungeons are too much of a stall too enjoy grinding. Not to mention how every drop outside of the vicarious blueprints is useless.

  • The whole gearing up process is faulty asf:

    -why is raid gear useless when it is supposed to be the next step towards gearing up? like it's utter dog shit in terms of viability.

    -if the vicarious set is given so much viability in terms of stats, why is it locked behind such a cancer farm experience? - the drop rate is abysmal and the dungeons are too much of a stall too enjoy grinding. Not to mention how every drop outside of the vicarious blueprints is useless.

    It's masked behind term ''difficulty''. You can argue that if increasing drop chances and increasing mob+bosse hp/damage as compensation would make game better or worse.

  • -why is raid gear useless when it is supposed to be the next step towards gearing up? like it's utter dog shit in terms of viability.

    dark bone is meant to be used in GC, ppl use vicarious because we are all overgeared for the current content so it's faster to run GC with vicarious as it has much more dps. but Aurith set is required for Primal

    -if the vicarious set is given so much viability in terms of stats, why is it locked behind such a cancer farm experience? - the drop rate is abysmal and the dungeons are too much of a stall too enjoy grinding. Not to mention how every drop outside of the vicarious blueprints is useless.

    hum every game has a fixed drop rate, 100% would be too easy but if you want im sure you can find a private server for that, the other drops are because Vicarious is top dps gear for the current content but that doesn't mean u can't use lvl 55 gear aswell. In fact when the game started many ppl didn't knew about vicarious set until it became more popular since it's just better.

  • ↑ What are you on about? It's not about being overgeared. Full +9 Vicarious vs +9 Rookie Raid Sets, Vicarious still wins by a huge margin.


    1st of all, he's pointing a flaw this game has and you don't realize to see. It's not about being overgeared. The thing is, farming Rookie Raids to get a set that it's supposed to be of use on the next content but you keep using the one before that because is better is all wrong on its own.


    The stats the Rookie Set has should've been the ones from Vicarious from the very beginning. And the stats of Vicarious should've been the ones from the Rookie Raid. Now it's pointless for that.


    Also, Vicarious has been always the one more popular. Before overhaul everyone was going for Vicarious any day of the year. If anything, the set from Rookie Raids is only now popular among newbies because it can be equiped to all classes and its drop rate increased a lot with the Raid overhaul. And don't forget it's cheaper than before. Before overhauling the raids, the Rookie Raid set was hard to drop due to awful rates and the price was bigger than Vicarious. But no one was going for it. Not to mention Vicarious set was more easy (or less tedious) to get even when it's behind a character restriction wall and splitted between maps.


    Now things turned around. Vicarious is still tedious to farm but the one from Rookie Raids is way easier to get. But even so, things are like before, those aiming for a farm set will be always aiming for Vicarious if they ever get something from Rookie Raid and compare their stats. It's just simply awful. And it shouldn't be like that.


    As an example, It's like we get Primal but Aurith set stats are still the top. You would be really dumbfounded. That's what happened with Vicarious and Rookie Raids sets.

    Edited 3 times, last by Rossweisse ().

  • 1st of all, he's pointing a flaw this game has and you don't realize to see


    nothing is more frustrating to drop all class except yours again and again in dungeon.

    The game is already one of the easiest mmo to ever exist, and you want it to be even easier? there's private servers if you want easier stuff also let's not forget you can still buy vicarious, dark bone and aurith on the market anyways.


    ↑ What are you on about? It's not about being overgeared. Full +9 Vicarous vs +9 Rookie Raid Sets, Vicarous still wins by a huge margin.

    It wins because you upgrade it that much lol, if you were to play without anti destructions and could only upgrade to +4 or risk to destroy your gear (which btw is how the game is meant to be played and thats why they nerfed alt farming) I assure you that a +6 vicarious would be almost impossible to make as it doesn't drop often and you would destroy before getting to +6, while darkbone drops all the time and you could make it atleast +6 eventually.

    What people fail to understand is that Anti-destr and strength expansion tickets can only be acquired via alt farm because they were not meant to be a core part of the game, you receive them lvling up as a welcome gift to new players and to help them understand how the game works and as the typical gifts every mmo give you when lvling up, like in Tera they give you those cool costumes and many mmo have their own different versions of free gifts for new players. The game is meant to be p2w as almost every free 2 play game and in Kr they wanted to nerf alt farming to 2 weeks.

    You ppl have to deal with this, really, gameforge won't do anything about it the game is already easy as it is, it's a korean game full of grinding till you eventually get your stuff and try to upgrade it and thank heavens we can just alt farm for anti destructions really, I have now 1200+ hours (checked from steam) and personally I don't see anything wrong with the game, a new player can just sell a few EC and get geared, and all we have to do now is to get a decent Aurith set and farm WUC, EC, and alt farm anti destructions, akashas, strength expansion tickets. Is all of this farming boring? kinda but thats how it is, will be more fun with advancements in the future but increasing drop rates or dropping only for your class would make the game way too easy lol it's already one of the easiest MMO I played in the last decade, if you are so desperate for an easier version just look for a private server. Sorry for repeating myself but thats just how it is I don't really see any flaws in the game if not the low fps in WB or some ppl crash all the time. (or the pvp if we can call that a pvp lul)

  • What? I was talking about the flaw xCGG ↓ was pointing out and even you were quoting. Why do you bring End's quote in this and a point it has nothing to do with? Until that last post it has nothing to do with it at all nor I was bringing it up as a core problem of my answer.

    -why is raid gear useless when it is supposed to be the next step towards gearing up? like it's utter dog shit in terms of viability.


    The part from that quote, that you still don't understand, is that Vicarious is even at +0 way more useful than any set Rookie Raids drop all day any day of the year. I upgraded them to +9 in the last comparison because you were talking we are overgeared. Anyway, even at +0 Vicarious is still clearly the winner because the whole set bonus the set per se gives and not the +x upgrade bonuses or the damage and defense they offer. For 1200+ hours, you really spent low time on the inventory window and fail to realize the differences between said sets to say they win because they simply are upgraded.


    And now, that it's clear as crystalline water that Vicarious Set is better than Rookie Raids sets, because it's a fact and not because I'm telling you so (just do the math and some glance at the bonuses or look it up anywhere because it has been debunked long time ago), the core problem xCGG was talking there is: Why the friggin' hell a set from a step backwards is better than a set from a step onwards. It. Has. No. Sense. Whatsoever.


    And don't you dare to mention the drop of the Rookie Raids sets is easier because that was an overhaul not so long ago. We may have spent less time but KR stayed for even longer time with the old rates than us and Vicarious was clearly easier to get than Rookie Raid sets the whole time.



    I never cared about the rate nor I was asking to make it more or less difficult. I was only concerned about that one flaw I pointed out of set growth discrepancy.

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  • The game is already one of the easiest mmo to ever exist, and you want it to be even easier? there's private servers if you want easier stuff also let's not forget you can still buy vicarious, dark bone and aurith on the market anyways.

    Dont troll me pls


    Im pretty sure you not farming and buy to GS for stay this sh

    사공이 많으면 배가 산으로 간다


    -The first one GF lover xoxoxoxo :saint:<3:love:

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  • Ok i'm done you are trolling, I said vicarious is a dps set, dark bone is a tanky set, since to upgrade past +4 you need anti destr (anti destr are technically a p2w mechanic or you shouldnt have many, but ppl abuse alt farming which is why it has been nerfed), if you cannot afford that, (to have anti destr) then you have to run GC with darkbone (im not completely sure +4 darkbone is enough tho) , if u can afford to have a vicarious set with decent hp and upgrade lvl for defence, then you can run it with vicarious, as in fact, I do to run it in 12 min usually. The same goes with Aurith set, it isnt a good set it's here just to make us run Primal raid, but with Aurith it's more obvious it's here to let us run Primal, with Dark bone it isnt rly obvious and necessary but it's still good if you don't wanna farm a vicarious or spend the moneys for it, both set are available and thats for the best, there's no reason to buff / nerf any set or make them always drop for your class. Also the game doesn't have any sort of time limit, here you can take 2 hours to run dung / raid and you can do that, in other games there's a time limit and when that expire the boss resets, making it impossible without propr dps.


    The game is already one of the easiest mmo to ever exist, and you want it to be even easier? there's private servers if you want easier stuff also let's not forget you can still buy vicarious, dark bone and aurith on the market anyways.

    Dont troll me pls


    Im pretty sure you not farming and buy to GS for stay this sh

    ? If you don't think soulworker is easy try blade n soul or just google "hardest mmos" and you will see many have much more complicate boss mechanics / never drops / no way to protect gear from breaking on upgrade ecc.

    Edit: oh you edited while i was already replying, im not 100% sure what you wanted to say, I assure you i use 400 ep on my main + alt farm everyday

  • Borring to do all week lvl 1-24+ 5 five time,

    x4 for 200akashic card 200protect with bad rate.


    ( 120 hours of painfull and borring leveling every mouth ) for bad cards and fail upgrade.


    You cant create 2nd char because if you do you farm less reroll.


    If you think the game was easy i agree with you but this game still borring as hell.



    ( 120hours is like a job )



    Edit : If you think the difficulty of a game is to farm like a zombies the same thing for poor drop you realy have your chance to get a job in GF office.

    사공이 많으면 배가 산으로 간다


    -The first one GF lover xoxoxoxo :saint:<3:love:

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  • Gameforge didn't develop the game they just publish, at best I would get a job at LionGames, and yep thats how Korean MMOs are: spam same dung all the time till you drop what you need, and if you need more of that item, spam it more and more lol

    Btw I alt farm to the first dung of candus for the quest that gives 3 more anti destruction in candus city and only with 1 acc I try to lvl up to grace for the strength exp tickets which i'll stop once i have a decent number of those and alt farming to lvl 14 should take around 2 hours per char not more

  • If you still continue to endure it's your choice, if you like no problem.


    You =/= All


    GF have the right to do what they want stop think it's LG guide ligne.


    We have the worst Server in all region if you like that cool im happy to know you love this game but some people dont like it.

    사공이 많으면 배가 산으로 간다


    -The first one GF lover xoxoxoxo :saint:<3:love:

  • Well with that I agree, one can only hope that the game will be better but it's mostly up to the developer I think GF doesn't do any custom patch they only change premium shop prices

  • What? I was talking about the flaw xCGG ↓ was pointing out and even you were quoting. Why do you bring End's quote in this and a point it has nothing to do with? Until that last post it has nothing to do with it at all nor I was bringing it up as a core problem of my answer.

    -why is raid gear useless when it is supposed to be the next step towards gearing up? like it's utter dog shit in terms of viability.


    The part from that quote, that you still don't understand, is that Vicarious is even at +0 way more useful than any set Rookie Raids drop all day any day of the year.

    I stopped reading here. Great logic bud. You rock.

    I will never be able to understand how, when I say that basically "roockie raid gear is so much worse than Vicarious gear", you get the complete opposite message on your side of the field.

    :jin4:

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