Lily class concepts (Math later)

Ok everyone know the current problems of this class.

Make sure to check the other classes in the near future (Haru is the next).

Anyway here are a few new ability concepts for Lily (Other ability revamps are in progress already)

I'm working with Rivertha (HOQ) together to improve the gameplay and balance for every single class.

If you don't know him make sure to check his channel below:

You have suggestions for this or other classes?

Leave Rivertha or me a message on discord or here.

• HOQ#9741
• Yagyu#5921

General

• Her basic health has been increased by (1-60) by 2.66%
• Stats scale with 100% instead of 86,77%
• SF gain by basic attacks has been increased by 0.2
• Critical hits have a 5% chance to reduce the cooldown of your abilities by 0.5 seconds (2 seconds cooldown)
• Dash/Dodge range has been increased slightly

New Ability Order

Death Twister [Active]

Quickly dash forward, using the speed perform a spinning slash.

• got removed and replaced with (Default ability)

Ignore Pain [Active] NEW

Cost: 25 SF

Cooldown: 30 seconds

Required Lv. 32

Lily is immune against all crowd control effects for 2 sec and decreasing incoming damage by 15% for 20 sec.

Lily can use the ability while she is crowd controlled.

Intensifying Madness [Passive]

Increase Critical Damage. (400/800/1300)

• Convert 30% of your attack damage to critical damage

or

(Increase minimum crit damage by 50%)

(Increase maximum crit damage by 25%)

Blade Frenzy [Passive]

Gain SF when hitting an enemy. Passively gain SF in set intervals.

Collecting a certain amount of SF will activate Frenzy Mode (50%).
Increasing Lily's maximum stamina by 10.

+50% SF

• Movement Speed +10%
  Critical Rate +5%
  

-50% SF

• Attack Power +450
  
• 50% increased SF regenration

Lily Wonderland [Passive] NEW

Increased chance to trigger your Soulstones by 10%

Ignore 10% of Enemy Elemental Resistances

Supernatural [Passive] NEW

When Lily deals direct damage, 1.5% of that amount is copied as healing.

Scythe Strike [Active] (Update)

SF cost: 20

Cooldown: 8 sec.

Step through the shadows to appear behind your enemy. Swiftly raise the scythe. Enemies will be launched in the air with a double slash.

• Range has been increased by 1 meter
• Hitbox radius has been increased by 30%

Charge-Attack [Extension]

If charged, it launches the enemy higher.
The ability increase the damage dealt of your next aerial attack by 20% for 3 seconds

• Slow effect for 2 seconds.

Diabolo Spin [Active]

Cooldown: 10 Seconds

SF cost: 30

Dash forward, using the speed perform a spinning slash.

Quickly rotate the scythe, pushes out the enemy at the end of the blow.

• Knockback range has been decreased by 35%
• Cooldown has been reduced by 2.5 seconds

Sickle & Chain [Extension]

Release a death god and attack the enemy while rotating the sickle with high speed.

• Damage 498% (+60%)
• SA 394% (+28%)
• Range has been increased by 10%

Death Throw [Active]

Cooldown: 20 sec.

SF cost: 20

Attack by throwing the scythe like a boomerang. Attract the enemies attacked when the scythe comes back to the owner.

• Range has been increased by 10%
  
• Damage has been increased by 11% per lv.

Reaper's Call [Active]

Only available in the air. Summons the Grim Reaper, launching the enemies in the air. It will attack the enemies in the air.

• Hitbox radius has been increased by 20%
• Range has been increased by 1 meter

Deathly Triad [Active]

Cooldown: 35sec.

SF cost: 60 (40)

The Grim Reaper with two scythes appears, swinging them along with Lily. The ground smash creates three shock waves that will hit the enemies in the range.

• Lily is able to cancel the ability
  
• Casting speed scales with your current attack speed (exclude Akasha cards)

(Example: 135 Attack Speed = -0.35 seconds cast time / after burn)

Damage

• 911 (962%)
• 956 (1066%)
• 1070 (1292%)
• 1184 (1664%)
• 1366 (1993%)

SA Break

• 1263 ( - )
• 1327 (1396%)
• 1485 (1517%)
• 1643 (1801%)
• 1895 (2012%)

Versus Lvl55 (as Lvl 60)

Guillotine [Active]

Cooldown: 45sec.

SF cost: 75 (65)

Surrounds and restraints the enemies with chains, pushing them under a summoning gigantic guillotine.

• Slow effect 70% for 5 sec.
• Range has been increased by 30%
• Damage has been increased by 63% per lv.
• SA break has been increased by 12% per lv.

(Note: This ability still require a complete revamp, this is just a gap closer)

Shadow Impulse [Extension] NEW

Releasing enraged shadow spirits to attack all targets in the area for 6 sec. You generate 2 SF each time a shadow attacks.

• Damage 78%
• SA break 32%

Terrifying Madness [Extension] NEW

Release a empowered Guillotine with chains. The chains coil around all enemies within 15 yards, pulling them back into the area whenever they try to flee.

• Increase the primary damage of Guillotine by 112%
• Reduce SF cost down to 55 from 65

Terror Chain [Active]

Cooldown: 16

SF cost: 30

Summons the Grim Reaper in front, the Grim Reaper connects the enemies with a chain, they are drawn towards the center of the attack range.

• Range has been increased by 3 meter

Crowd control [Extension]

Increase the attack range.

• 100% chance to stun your targets (idea by Rivertha(HOQ) to make her viable for PvP)
• Range has been decreased by 1.5 meter

Postion Lock [Extension] NEW

• Silence effect for 4 seconds. Silence does not work against district bosses, just a simple interrupt. (PvE exclusive)
  
• Silence effect for 2 seconds. (PvP exclusive)
• Range has been increased by 1.5 meter (0.5 per lv.)

Rampaging Madness [Passive]

Every minute while HP is lower than 50%, decrease SF consumption, increase critical damage, increase armor penetration for 10 seconds.

Every time Lily uses an ability she receives 1 shadow orb (up to 3 times) that empowers her weapon, upon 3 orbs dealing 300% additional damage for her next basic attack in a wide area and increasing her SF regenration by 96% for 2 seconds. Her movement speed is increased by 35% for 2 seconds whenever the effect is active.

(8 seconds cooldown)

• Attack speed has been increased by 10% (persistent)
  
• Reduced stamina costs by 25% (persistent)

• SF consumption: -30%
• Critical damage: +2500%
• Armor Penetration: +30%

1 Orb 2 Orbs 3 orbs

(3 Orbs summon your grim reaper for the final hit)

Die-Phoon [Active]

Cooldown: 30

SF cost: 50

It creates a powerful tornado to attack the enemies in front.

• Damage has been decreased by 14% per lv.
• Range has been increased slightly
  

Discharge [Extension]

(May a rework soon)

Summons a tornado that moves towards the enemy

• Damage has been decreased by 10%
• Tornado is moving slightly faster
• SA Break has been increased by 7%

Spread [Extension]

The created whirlwind weaves forwards.

Transform into a Hurricane for 5 sec, reducing incoming physical damage by 15% and drag nearby enemies into the whirlwind.

Enemies in the wind are getting slowed by 60%.

• SA break has been increased by 44% per lv.
• Damage has been decreased by 16% per lv.
  

Angel of Death [Active]

After doing a rotation slash, cut the front enemies alongside the summoned Grim Reaper.

• No Changes

Absorb [Extension]

Steal HP from the afflicted enemies, and heals HP of oneself.

• HP gain has been activated for PvP with 35%
  
• Cast is slightly faster (-0.3)

Silence [Extension] NEW

Unleashes a fast whirlwind of shadows, striking all enemies within 3 meters for elemental damage and silence the target for 2 seconds.

• Damage: 128%
• SA Break: 94%

Battle Howl [Active]

The reaper's cry increases the chance of critical hits for you and your team.

• SF consumption has been reduced to 65 (down from 85)

Battle Aura [Extenstion] NEW

Duration: Perm. Aura

Range: 40 meters

Increasing the critical damage of you and your team by 300/550/800

Whispering Wind [Extension] (Beta Test) NEW

Duration: Perm. Aura

Range: 40 meters

Increasing the elemental resistance (Sin,Hate) for you and your team by 3/6/9%

This aura is ready for every class, all of them gonna get different resistances.

Carnage [Active]

Cooldown: 20 (30)

SF cost: 45

Deform the sickle to the scimitar form to attack. LMB to quickly perform repeated attacks on the spot for a period of time.

• Buff effect: 50% Armor Break
• Armor Break has been reduced by 20% (down from 70)
• Damage has been increased by 50%

Through [Extension]

You ignore a portion of the enemy's defence.

Empower your summoned reaper. The reaper is casting Carnage instead of Lily, you're able to move. Lily gain 30% armor break while your reaper is active. You gain 20% additional armor break if you attack together.

• Hitbox has been increased by 15%
• Cooldown reduced by 12 seconds.
• Damage decreased by 25%

Wrath [Extension]

• has been removed

Fury Scythe [Active]

Joining the sickle and the scissors and do a lash rush in the front. It attacks enemies and moves forward by command.

LMB: Cuts forward enemies and makes short rush.

RMG: It moves quickly towards the front.

• Damage: 3314%
• SA Damage: 3140%
• SF cost: 55
• Cooldown: 30 sec.

• Lily is able to cancel the ability
  

Shadow Storm [Active] (New)

Cooldown: 55

SF cost: 70

Required Level: 58

Lily cast in a battle stance, waiting for your next command

Details:

• LMB: Damage 2626% (5/5)
• LMB: SA Break 1741% (5/5)

• RMB: Damage 818% (5/5)
• RMB: SA Break 396% (5/5)

LMB Cast a fast moving single hurricane with a small ground trail in crosshair direction. While breaking through enemies performs up to 5 hits with a high amount of damage and lift small enemies in the air.

RMB Lily releases quick spreading shadow winds around her, 12 small tornados go radial direction from her creating a big area. (like one of Nita's attacks), every small tornado deal slightly reduced damage. Each tornado can hit target individually so you can release a lot of damage standing close to the targets.

/Fine tuning now

/Next class

Haru or Iris, you can vote soon

You missunderstood

Every SF point you spend have a chance by 15%, which means if you spend 20 its possible that you get 1 or 10 or 15 depends on your luck.

But its still very strong. Mechanics like this work fantastic

Quote from Soulum

Why does this reminds me of elswords mechanics.......*shivers*

that Lily wonderland......hmmmm wish there was a dark elemental (prob is but too lazy to check) that allows soulsteal when attacking physically at a low fixed rate

I never played this one to be honest but what do you think?

Oh nice game

-update

-Big update (added many abilities)

Quote from Cater

Give her a skill where she applies a buff on her next 5 left clicks. Each hit has increased damage, drains SF from her enemies and each left click lowers her cooldowns by 1 second.

Wait, let me think about it, I have a idea maybe (But I must be careful that it isn't too strong). I want to keep her balanced (current + advanced)

Quote from Cater

Seriously, who thought that SA break is a good stat, and Lilly should have 30-40% longer cooldowns, 20-40% less damage, 20% higher SF cost for it?

I know what you mean, its also kinda boring and annoying that Phoon+Carnage is her only one real damage output in the game.

This is what I'm trying to change for more individuality

Update

-added Guillotine

-added Terror chain

-added Rampaging Madness

Quote from Iris Yuma

Mmm you only bring positive increase of either damage or SF reduction. When increasing the damage, sf cost has to increase aswell in my opinion so it balances out. I want a sf reduction of my lvl42 skill on Iris, based on these stats it's a huge DPS increase for Lilly which makes the other classes be behind. I understand Lilly has sf issues, but top Lilly players in kr maximize its full potential to make it compete with the others. Lilly is the hardest class to optimize.

"the thread is Lily"

Quote from Yagyu4k

Make sure to check the other classes in the near future (Haru is the next).

other classes later

Quote from Jolteon

Well it seems kinda nice, i like especially Terror Chain - CC idea.

But imho any form of other cc than slow would make Lily a lot better. Either on Terror, or Guillo should really root, when you throw those big a*s chains on enemies to drag them, they shouldnt be able to run away from there again lol not fan of slow.

If slow i think i would pref it this way -->switch it Terror chain -70% movement for 2s (since its already "dragging" in, it would be nice to even slow them there and on other hand give gullotine some form of stun + bigger aoe. (even tho i know it has 2nd Terror chain extension, but i still have feeling guillotine needs to be really fearable skill, when its "beheading machine" lol.)

Other tweaks seems fine to me. Triad needs basically atleast to be cancelable. Supernatural/Ignore painseems interesting but maybe bit too OP even tho i would love it as Lily player. xD

But nice ideas, would be cool if they would consider it.

Display More

The part with Supernatural/IP need some math later on, I mean all classes have a utility ability like a shield (Jin, Erwin etc.)

May 20% is enough, I must sim it before with a live combat log

Anyway thanks a lot, I'll see that I can improve some stuff a bit to keep it balanced with other classes (equal fairness)

-Update Angel of Death has been added