Leaving the official advancement trailer here.
ty Was waiting for this to show up, advancement hit on 25th sometime right?
Iris - awakening (KOR), for all who have not seen it yet ^^
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Leaving the official advancement trailer here.
ty Was waiting for this to show up, advancement hit on 25th sometime right?
It was already released. Found a channel on YT who's streaming it, upgraded saber is good for clearing with it's low cooldown imo.
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And the massive slam she did from the air was also struggling to kill and I doubt it's damage is that trash, my best bet is the gear they're using to showcase the changes are trash. After all the weapon is a weapon skin so we don't know what they're actually using
I don't think she has a trash weapon but maybe... or maybe she got nerfed. Nothing that she doesn't deserve, she is a bit OP at the moment in my opinion.
Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
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It was already released. Found a channel on YT who's streaming it, upgraded saber is good for clearing with it's low cooldown imo.
This one? There's a lot of commentary in English mid-stream
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I don't think she has a trash weapon but maybe... or maybe she got nerfed. Nothing that she doesn't deserve, she is a bit OP at the moment in my opinion.
Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
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And the massive slam she did from the air was also struggling to kill and I doubt it's damage is that trash, my best bet is the gear they're using to showcase the changes are trash. After all the weapon is a weapon skin so we don't know what they're actually using
I don't think she has a trash weapon but maybe... or maybe she got nerfed. Nothing that she doesn't deserve, she is a bit OP at the moment in my opinion.
Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
my my you said it nicely haha. I never can do that!!! >.<. Yea i agree with you on the iris thing. I dont think she is weak by any means. However im not foolish enough to think she is op either haha. Those solo vids do look nice. However playing her i can certainly say. that is some nice gear those people have XD. Slap a +8 weapon on her and some nice stated gear. Hell yea she can solo hard core. Wait......so can ever other class tho and a hell of a lot better i might add
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I don't think she has a trash weapon but maybe... or maybe she got nerfed. Nothing that she doesn't deserve, she is a bit OP at the moment in my opinion.
Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
my my you said it nicely haha. I never can do that!!! >.<. Yea i agree with you on the iris thing. I dont think she is weak by any means. However im not foolish enough to think she is op either haha. Those solo vids do look nice. However playing her i can certainly say. that is some nice gear those people have XD. Slap a +8 weapon on her and some nice stated gear. Hell yea she can solo hard core. Wait......so can ever other class tho and a hell of a lot better i might add
Trust me shes fun with my +9 Aurith Fury x)
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Plasma drill, light sabre and camel spin getting special tune ups? I think most players have skipped putting points into those skills, what a shame if we don't get a skill reset once advancement is out for our version of the game~
If that's Plasma Sabre extension and not a new charge skill, converting all attacks into one may be useful. But that Camel Spin even with that extension is still useless af.
Basically just does more damage ticks (Camel Spin) It'll be as good as Haru's spin when she got advanced
Hard to believe. In the video, the player is struggling against normal monsters when showing it off. Also Haru's spin has less cd and is even useful without advancement tho.
And the massive slam she did from the air was also struggling to kill and I doubt it's damage is that trash, my best bet is the gear they're using to showcase the changes are trash. After all the weapon is a weapon skin so we don't know what they're actually using
There are some Ark Ship areas where the video takes place and the skills do fairly good damage. The Plasma Sabre extension ticks for 280k as a crit. By no means what she is wielding is bad equipment.
I'm failing to see Camel Spin to do more damage ticks. What I've seen so far is that the range is increased and one last slash is added at the end of the animation. I'm no Korean speaker nor I play the Korean version so what I say is judging the video and not the real skill descriptions.
To me, what has been shown about Camel Spin is underwhelming. That's my first impression.
Finally, when I say that that skill is still useless, it's because that skill focus more on adding combos and a bit of mobility than dealing damage. Iris kit is already overloaded with multi-hitting skills and I won't be using another one for that when I can already get enough combos and double the damage output if selecting other skills instead of that one. But that is MY game style. Others will find that change a good deal and I will welcome then all day any day of the year.
I will never be mad if the extension is confirmed in the future to be lacking damage and the only change is utility-wise focusing on a wider range. It's good that devs also start on adding utility changes. We already hit like trucks. All classes. Even Stella if you focus on cd reduction, atk speed and crit/crit damage.
The only thing is that, never take anything for granted. I don't mind being wrong and that the game proves me wrong when the time comes. But you, thinking that the skill will deal a lot more of damage, I would also like for you to think that there is a possibility that the skill could still be bad in the future to make damage. The less we expect now, the better the surprise later.
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If that's Plasma Sabre extension and not a new charge skill, converting all attacks into one may be useful. But that Camel Spin even with that extension is still useless af.
Basically just does more damage ticks (Camel Spin) It'll be as good as Haru's spin when she got advanced
Hard to believe. In the video, the player is struggling against normal monsters when showing it off. Also Haru's spin has less cd and is even useful without advancement tho.
And the massive slam she did from the air was also struggling to kill and I doubt it's damage is that trash, my best bet is the gear they're using to showcase the changes are trash. After all the weapon is a weapon skin so we don't know what they're actually using
There are some Ark Ship areas where the video takes place and the skills do fairly good damage. The Plasma Sabre extension ticks for 280k as a crit. By no means what she is wielding is bad equipment.
I'm failing to see Camel Spin to do more damage ticks. What I've seen so far is that the range is increased and one last slash is added at the end of the animation. I'm no Korean speaker nor I play the Korean version so what I say is judging the video and not the real skill descriptions.
To me, what has been shown about Camel Spin is underwhelming. That's my first impression.
Finally, when I say that that skill is still useless, it's because that skill focus more on adding combos and a bit of mobility than dealing damage. Iris kit is already overloaded with multi-hitting skills and I won't be using another one for that when I can already get enough combos and double the damage output if selecting other skills instead of that one. But that is MY game style. Others will find that change a good deal and I will welcome then all day any day of the year.
I will never be mad if the extension is confirmed in the future to be lacking damage and the only change is utility-wise focusing on a wider range. It's good that devs also start on adding utility changes. We already hit like trucks. All classes. Even Stella if you focus on cd reduction, atk speed and crit/crit damage.
The only thing is that, never take anything for granted. I don't mind being wrong and that the game proves me wrong when the time comes. But you, thinking that the skill will deal a lot more of damage, I would also like for you to think that there is a possibility that the skill could still be bad in the future to make damage. The less we expect now, the better the surprise later.
I totally understand where you're coming from, dont get me wrong.
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I have seen a korean video with the details of each new skill (i dont speak korean so this is only what i could see and understand):
Camel spin : increase the power of the base move (about 2.2 more powerfull) and add a last long range hit (very low power), now the skill is strong enough to be worth using and its a good skill to start a combo, as Iris only had somersault for that, the new camel spin is welcome.
Plasma saber : focus the power in a single hit and increase the range of the attack, also increase the charge speed by 30% (no increase in power, but the base skill is already very powerful with a power of 2500% at rank 5 and max charge)
New aerial skill : a slow but very poewerful two hit skill ( at rank 5 the total power is around 1900% / 2600% )
New ground skill : the power of this skill seems low at first ( around 500%/350% for the first hit then 100%/70% per wing's hit) but the wings hit all around you and deal a very good number of hits.
New passive : 5 sec invulnerability (60sec cooldown) when using right click.
I really like this new set of skills. Not everyone will use all of those skills but they have the merit of not all being focus on the same style, some are slow and powerful, and some bring mobility, speed or utility.
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Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
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Bla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
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Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
Then again you seem to lack evidence once again so not surprisedYou expect people commenting on a forum to have a range of screenshots ready to present as evidence? Give me a break. How about just take people's word for it. They are fresh LVL 55s because they literally rerolled in my guild.
If you want me to give you some actual non evidence logic how about this one: maybe you're just bad at iris which is why you're struggling to believe how she could be op.
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I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
Then again you seem to lack evidence once again so not surprisedYou expect people commenting on a forum to have a range of screenshots ready to present as evidence? Give me a break. How about just take people's word for it. They are fresh LVL 55s because they literally rerolled in my guild.
If you want me to give you some actual non evidence logic how about this one: maybe you're just bad at iris which is why you're struggling to believe how she could be op.
I'm dying LMFAO!
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I feel like you've got some issues, it's my opinion and it's non of your business. It feels like the more i answer to this the more bla bla bla you are gonna write so not gonna bother answering again. Bye
Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
Then again you seem to lack evidence once again so not surprisedYou expect people commenting on a forum to have a range of screenshots ready to present as evidence? Give me a break. How about just take people's word for it. They are fresh LVL 55s because they literally rerolled in my guild.
If you want me to give you some actual non evidence logic how about this one: maybe you're just bad at iris which is why you're struggling to believe how she could be op.
Bad Iris? Lmao I've been in top 10 as well. Taking peoples word for it is moronic. Her stats are practically similar to every other character. A more offensive glass cannon type character. It's not like her abilities have 2000% more damage than every other character. If anything you're probably bad at your character if you have to push the blame onto "Iris being OP".
If you can't even give the slightest piece of evidence towards a fresh 55 hitting top 10 then why the hell would I take your word for it. Saying a fresh 55 hit top 10 is nothing more than an exaggeration to prove your point.
Also you seem to be forgetting Iris has a ton of AoE capability, right? So comparing all other characters to Iris in static bosses isn't necessarily unfair, but you're placing Iris in the optimal position to do the most dps she can.
I too have been in top 10 but thats because all the people who reach top 10 are well equipped and most run adamant to prevent D6 boss knockback.
The fact you're trying to tell me a fresh 55 who:Probably doesn't have the best weapon
Most likely doesn't have decent gear
Possible doesn't even have gear or ring sets
Is completely absurd. The other point which you supposedly completely avoiding is that the dude was an experienced player from another character who whaled to put good gear on his Iris. But I'm not surprised you avoided that point because its most likely true.
I had gear prepared for my Iris for months so the second I hit 55 I could place good stuff on it. So wow, Im a fresh 55 with full aurith by your logic I guess
Honestly I'd rather get my opinions on a characters placement from experienced players from KR and JP than just some random on the forums who just randomly came in, said something and can't give the slightest piece of evidence to his claim.Hopefully you'll chose to give a slight backing to your claim if you chose to respond and not some weak insult like "you're bad"
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Iris is well overall stronger but not OP or broken, depends what gear you have even with good brooches because she didn't have enough DPS except one skill "Hail of Plasma" within big plastica for golden ball which you can spam it due to high damage.
Lily is still at top DPS because she does ridiculous high crit damage with mass tornadoes and murder everything after revamped, no question.
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Couldn't even answer a simple question or give a better excuse to why she is OP > Strong. Trust me I think you're the one with the issues
So 1: Can't even give a reason why, can't structure an argument etc.
2: says an opinion on a public discussion and gets upset when someone asks to discuss it. Seems a bit twisted or like an attention grab.
either way, you're more trigger happy than a SJW
I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
Then again you seem to lack evidence once again so not surprisedYou expect people commenting on a forum to have a range of screenshots ready to present as evidence? Give me a break. How about just take people's word for it. They are fresh LVL 55s because they literally rerolled in my guild.
If you want me to give you some actual non evidence logic how about this one: maybe you're just bad at iris which is why you're struggling to believe how she could be op.
Bad Iris? Lmao I've been in top 10 as well. Taking peoples word for it is moronic. Her stats are practically similar to every other character. A more offensive glass cannon type character. It's not like her abilities have 2000% more damage than every other character. If anything you're probably bad at your character if you have to push the blame onto "Iris being OP".
If you can't even give the slightest piece of evidence towards a fresh 55 hitting top 10 then why the hell would I take your word for it. Saying a fresh 55 hit top 10 is nothing more than an exaggeration to prove your point.
Also you seem to be forgetting Iris has a ton of AoE capability, right? So comparing all other characters to Iris in static bosses isn't necessarily unfair, but you're placing Iris in the optimal position to do the most dps she can.
I too have been in top 10 but thats because all the people who reach top 10 are well equipped and most run adamant to prevent D6 boss knockback.
The fact you're trying to tell me a fresh 55 who:Probably doesn't have the best weapon
Most likely doesn't have decent gear
Possible doesn't even have gear or ring sets
Is completely absurd. The other point which you supposedly completely avoiding is that the dude was an experienced player from another character who whaled to put good gear on his Iris. But I'm not surprised you avoided that point because its most likely true.
I had gear prepared for my Iris for months so the second I hit 55 I could place good stuff on it. So wow, Im a fresh 55 with full aurith by your logic I guess
Honestly I'd rather get my opinions on a characters placement from experienced players from KR and JP than just some random on the forums who just randomly came in, said something and can't give the slightest piece of evidence to his claim.Hopefully you'll chose to give a slight backing to your claim if you chose to respond and not some weak insult like "you're bad"
Considering I'm pretty sure in KR and JP she hasn't gotten nerfed, I think you might just be crying false tears in an attempt to wind someone upWell you can go ask KR people, Iris got nerf first week after it released, because she is too strong. As of right now, she is not as op as she is when she is first released. But still pretty strong, comparison to all other class she has the highest dps because of her skill kits. U can use same gears full aurith set for all other class that is 55. You can obviously see that Iris dmg is a lot higher than other class, u can test it yourself. Iris even right now in KR is consider stronger than all other class, she is good at mobbing while also do the highest dps on boss. Like compare to other class, Erwin is strong at bossing but bad at mobbing. Haru is strong at mobbing, but not that strong at single target. Stella has a lot aoe and can heal, but mediocre dps, Jin is offensive support and do decent dmg have quite high burst if able to counter. So reason people consider iris as op, because her weakness is almost non existence, low base hp and def? when end game if u +9, it doesnt matter if ur base hp or base def is low. Since most class dont use %hp stuff that much, except for jin and haru can use %hp.
Yes you can just say iris is strong, and not op but in other ppl eyes it's consider as op. But if u try use Full aurith set on iris and buy a cheap D6 weapon +6 it for ur iris and other class and tested it. i can guarantee u that Iris will do the highest dmg out of all ur other class in comparison with similar gears. Like i said, everyone definition of OP is different, to you she is strong not op, to others it's not simply strong, she is op.
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Every character is strong in their own aspects. They all shine in their own ways. Iris has nice CC and good damage but has the lowest Base HP and Defense out of all the characters (and slow base attack speed and slow combo wind up). She's a glass cannon and unlike gameforge, Lion Games actually tells people when they make stat changes to characters so yes, their gear is most likely trash
edit: A lot of KR players say Iris is bad and somewhat inconsistent as well. She isn't considered the best character by a long shot
Also don't misuse the term OPBla Bla Bla... She is still OP in MY opinion. Deal with it.
Wasn't even that long to read.
Also she is STRONG in your opinion, Overpowered would be to a level where she is broken and completely outshines every other character, which is obviously incorrect
Have you actually played her to her current end game extent? or is this saying "I cant kill it but that person can, hurr durr OP"?If you cannot even clarify that then I'm sorry but your opinion is poorly structured and most likely judged by videos of Iris solo running stuff with godly tier Primal gear...
my my you said it nicely haha. I never can do that!!! >.<. Yea i agree with you on the iris thing. I dont think she is weak by any means. However im not foolish enough to think she is op either haha. Those solo vids do look nice. However playing her i can certainly say. that is some nice gear those people have XD. Slap a +8 weapon on her and some nice stated gear. Hell yea she can solo hard core. Wait......so can ever other class tho and a hell of a lot better i might add
Trust me shes fun with my +9 Aurith Fury x)
and yeah pretty much every other class can solo just as well if not better than Irisnice!!! yea i have a long way to go before i can even think about +7 not to mention +9 haha. Thats super awesome that you got to +9!!!
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I think you only need to see how many fresh LVL 55 iris are on the d6 leaderboard to tell you she's op
Never seen 'Fresh' Lvl 55 Iris' hit top 10, either you're lying or they're already experienced players who whaled gear to use on Iris when they hit 55.
Then again you seem to lack evidence once again so not surprisedYou expect people commenting on a forum to have a range of screenshots ready to present as evidence? Give me a break. How about just take people's word for it. They are fresh LVL 55s because they literally rerolled in my guild.
If you want me to give you some actual non evidence logic how about this one: maybe you're just bad at iris which is why you're struggling to believe how she could be op.
Bad Iris? Lmao I've been in top 10 as well. Taking peoples word for it is moronic. Her stats are practically similar to every other character. A more offensive glass cannon type character. It's not like her abilities have 2000% more damage than every other character. If anything you're probably bad at your character if you have to push the blame onto "Iris being OP".
If you can't even give the slightest piece of evidence towards a fresh 55 hitting top 10 then why the hell would I take your word for it. Saying a fresh 55 hit top 10 is nothing more than an exaggeration to prove your point.
Also you seem to be forgetting Iris has a ton of AoE capability, right? So comparing all other characters to Iris in static bosses isn't necessarily unfair, but you're placing Iris in the optimal position to do the most dps she can.
I too have been in top 10 but thats because all the people who reach top 10 are well equipped and most run adamant to prevent D6 boss knockback.
The fact you're trying to tell me a fresh 55 who:Probably doesn't have the best weapon
Most likely doesn't have decent gear
Possible doesn't even have gear or ring sets
Is completely absurd. The other point which you supposedly completely avoiding is that the dude was an experienced player from another character who whaled to put good gear on his Iris. But I'm not surprised you avoided that point because its most likely true.
I had gear prepared for my Iris for months so the second I hit 55 I could place good stuff on it. So wow, Im a fresh 55 with full aurith by your logic I guess
Honestly I'd rather get my opinions on a characters placement from experienced players from KR and JP than just some random on the forums who just randomly came in, said something and can't give the slightest piece of evidence to his claim.Hopefully you'll chose to give a slight backing to your claim if you chose to respond and not some weak insult like "you're bad"
Considering I'm pretty sure in KR and JP she hasn't gotten nerfed, I think you might just be crying false tears in an attempt to wind someone upWell you can go ask KR people, Iris got nerf first week after it released, because she is too strong. As of right now, she is not as op as she is when she is first released. But still pretty strong, comparison to all other class she has the highest dps because of her skill kits. U can use same gears full aurith set for all other class that is 55. You can obviously see that Iris dmg is a lot higher than other class, u can test it yourself. Iris even right now in KR is consider stronger than all other class, she is good at mobbing while also do the highest dps on boss. Like compare to other class, Erwin is strong at bossing but bad at mobbing. Haru is strong at mobbing, but not that strong at single target. Stella has a lot aoe and can heal, but mediocre dps, Jin is offensive support and do decent dmg have quite high burst if able to counter. So reason people consider iris as op, because her weakness is almost non existence, low base hp and def? when end game if u +9, it doesnt matter if ur base hp or base def is low. Since most class dont use %hp stuff that much, except for jin and haru can use %hp.
Yes you can just say iris is strong, and not op but in other ppl eyes it's consider as op. But if u try use Full aurith set on iris and buy a cheap D6 weapon +6 it for ur iris and other class and tested it. i can guarantee u that Iris will do the highest dmg out of all ur other class in comparison with similar gears. Like i said, everyone definition of OP is different, to you she is strong not op, to others it's not simply strong, she is op.
Isn't testing it on D6 boss sort of unfair tho?
Y'know consider a lot of Iris' kit requires you to get the full DoT off to get max dmg which is easy to get on static bosses like primal and D6 boss.
Yeah, I'll admit, shes strong, she is purely DPS focussed. But these guys are blatantly exaggerating, surely you can see that
