Display MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreLike i said i dont want that changed, let it stay no changed for both, it is good as i want to be.
I play only Haru from the start and my choice was clear because i like the sword type weapon and i play for fun and i enjoy playing Haru i have no problems with solo in "maniac" mode from the start to 55lvl, and raids/GC too.
55 content isn't content anyway, everything is free loot for every class.
But well she won't stay like that, they want to rework Haru anyway (LG) Actually she'll get a tiny buff in 5 days (korea) but they're working on a revamp already (to make all abilities useful for more additional options within your rotation, priority list).
All classes get a lot of changes within the next few years (+2nd advance mode, may even a 3rd in this time, it depends on their progress)
Yes i do know that and understand but i am sure about what i said, i don want any range decrease or dmg decrease for skill or some "stance" change too, if there will be a rework, i hope it will be good and not that downgrade ,and that's all.
Trust me I know how balancing works (We can talk about the range, there are possibilities to avoid this problem)
The stance is extremely popular in asia and even tons of Harus on the english versions want it, its a huge damage increase for her.
She'll deal at least 30% more overall damage with a very decent amount of SAB.DPS tank n spank boss within 5 minutes (primal 62): let's say you dont have to move at all, 1/3 more dps which is on the level between a iris (best dps class in the game, now and advance too) and Erwin (2nd best dps class).
So she'll be the new 2nd rank and is may even able to compete with iris.
She is extremely close (problem solved for her at least)
and notice: the concept stuff isn't gone but she'll definitely not stay like the current one.
(Some of HoQ's and my lily changes buffs/nerfs are live in korea already, they want some mechanics too)
Same counts for raids with mechanic bossfights with different difficult phases were one player is able to wipe the group if they're not careful. They're interested in it as next tier raid which is a must have anyway since we're far away from real content.
Here are some tiny concepts Lets Create A True Raid
Next problems Jin and Stella since they're completely broken.
Bro i hope if there will be a rework its nothing like your suggestion, i dont want range decrease and skill damage too, the stance both of them have a disadventage in use, Defensive give only 20% reduction of dmg taken while reducing our dmg deal by 30%? why? ah and "fusing swords" dont want that too /next one that Berserk we get more dmg taken +10% and little boost? if this will look different then i will think about it.
Haru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switches 
Display MoreDisplay MoreDisplay More55 content isn't content anyway, everything is free loot for every class.
But well she won't stay like that, they want to rework Haru anyway (LG) Actually she'll get a tiny buff in 5 days (korea) but they're working on a revamp already (to make all abilities useful for more additional options within your rotation, priority list).
All classes get a lot of changes within the next few years (+2nd advance mode, may even a 3rd in this time, it depends on their progress)
Yes i do know that and understand but i am sure about what i said, i don want any range decrease or dmg decrease for skill or some "stance" change too, if there will be a rework, i hope it will be good and not that downgrade ,and that's all.
Trust me I know how balancing works (We can talk about the range, there are possibilities to avoid this problem)
The stance is extremely popular in asia and even tons of Harus on the english versions want it, its a huge damage increase for her.
She'll deal at least 30% more overall damage with a very decent amount of SAB.DPS tank n spank boss within 5 minutes (primal 62): let's say you dont have to move at all, 1/3 more dps which is on the level between a iris (best dps class in the game, now and advance too) and Erwin (2nd best dps class).
So she'll be the new 2nd rank and is may even able to compete with iris.
She is extremely close (problem solved for her at least)
and notice: the concept stuff isn't gone but she'll definitely not stay like the current one.
(Some of HoQ's and my lily changes buffs/nerfs are live in korea already, they want some mechanics too)
Same counts for raids with mechanic bossfights with different difficult phases were one player is able to wipe the group if they're not careful. They're interested in it as next tier raid which is a must have anyway since we're far away from real content.
Here are some tiny concepts Lets Create A True Raid
Next problems Jin and Stella since they're completely broken.
Bro i hope if there will be a rework its nothing like your suggestion, i dont want range decrease and skill damage too, the stance both of them have a disadventage in use, Defensive give only 20% reduction of dmg taken while reducing our dmg deal by 30%? why? ah and "fusing swords" dont want that too /next one that Berserk we get more dmg taken +10% and little boost? if this will look different then i will think about it.
Haru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switches
Cooldown instead of movement speed?
Display MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreYes i do know that and understand but i am sure about what i said, i don want any range decrease or dmg decrease for skill or some "stance" change too, if there will be a rework, i hope it will be good and not that downgrade ,and that's all.
Trust me I know how balancing works (We can talk about the range, there are possibilities to avoid this problem)
The stance is extremely popular in asia and even tons of Harus on the english versions want it, its a huge damage increase for her.
She'll deal at least 30% more overall damage with a very decent amount of SAB.DPS tank n spank boss within 5 minutes (primal 62): let's say you dont have to move at all, 1/3 more dps which is on the level between a iris (best dps class in the game, now and advance too) and Erwin (2nd best dps class).
So she'll be the new 2nd rank and is may even able to compete with iris.
She is extremely close (problem solved for her at least)
and notice: the concept stuff isn't gone but she'll definitely not stay like the current one.
(Some of HoQ's and my lily changes buffs/nerfs are live in korea already, they want some mechanics too)
Same counts for raids with mechanic bossfights with different difficult phases were one player is able to wipe the group if they're not careful. They're interested in it as next tier raid which is a must have anyway since we're far away from real content.
Here are some tiny concepts Lets Create A True Raid
Next problems Jin and Stella since they're completely broken.
Bro i hope if there will be a rework its nothing like your suggestion, i dont want range decrease and skill damage too, the stance both of them have a disadventage in use, Defensive give only 20% reduction of dmg taken while reducing our dmg deal by 30%? why? ah and "fusing swords" dont want that too /next one that Berserk we get more dmg taken +10% and little boost? if this will look different then i will think about it.
Haru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switchesCooldown instead of movement speed?
Probs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpai
Display MoreBerserk: Oh well we could change % damage to a fix stat since fix stats scale better 20% are 340 damage on lvl60.
20% attack speed is insanely strong.
As I said I'm a very good balancing designer, I'm one of the best mmo players with tons of experience on the highest diffculties with worldfirst kills and a lot of pvp experience.
Should I buff wind rupture by 1000% more damage instead?
Seems like SW is your very first mmo (I'm not blaming but it feels like it to me, if yes its absolutely fine)
No SW is not my first mmo, i understand your work, i know its only "suggestions" and that's ok, i dont know who you are, and i dont care who you are and about your "tons" of experience, you can think of yourself as a "good balancing designer" and you can be a "one" of the best mmo players, i wish you good luck 
i have no offense on you, i only answered i am at "No" to that suggestion, if will look different then, maybe.
Display MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreTrust me I know how balancing works (We can talk about the range, there are possibilities to avoid this problem)
The stance is extremely popular in asia and even tons of Harus on the english versions want it, its a huge damage increase for her.
She'll deal at least 30% more overall damage with a very decent amount of SAB.DPS tank n spank boss within 5 minutes (primal 62): let's say you dont have to move at all, 1/3 more dps which is on the level between a iris (best dps class in the game, now and advance too) and Erwin (2nd best dps class).
So she'll be the new 2nd rank and is may even able to compete with iris.
She is extremely close (problem solved for her at least)
and notice: the concept stuff isn't gone but she'll definitely not stay like the current one.
(Some of HoQ's and my lily changes buffs/nerfs are live in korea already, they want some mechanics too)
Same counts for raids with mechanic bossfights with different difficult phases were one player is able to wipe the group if they're not careful. They're interested in it as next tier raid which is a must have anyway since we're far away from real content.
Here are some tiny concepts Lets Create A True Raid
Next problems Jin and Stella since they're completely broken.
Bro i hope if there will be a rework its nothing like your suggestion, i dont want range decrease and skill damage too, the stance both of them have a disadventage in use, Defensive give only 20% reduction of dmg taken while reducing our dmg deal by 30%? why? ah and "fusing swords" dont want that too /next one that Berserk we get more dmg taken +10% and little boost? if this will look different then i will think about it.
Haru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switchesCooldown instead of movement speed?
Probs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpai
Sounds great how about 0.5 or 1?
with all respect and no offense or doubt to your skills and experience and big kudos for your effort but if making changes based on the comment of a few players in the forum and simply altering certain values when 1 or 2 disagree or have a different idea about it...
The [math later] part is a bit concerning in this case it might feel like altering just based on what a few player like or not then somehow someone have work the right value out later... wont it be better if you guys test the value in a test server or if not at least a self developed combo dmg simulator
Display MoreDisplay MoreBro i hope if there will be a rework its nothing like your suggestion, i dont want range decrease and skill damage too, the stance both of them have a disadventage in use, Defensive give only 20% reduction of dmg taken while reducing our dmg deal by 30%? why? ah and "fusing swords" dont want that too /next one that Berserk we get more dmg taken +10% and little boost? if this will look different then i will think about it.
Haru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switchesCooldown instead of movement speed?
Probs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpaiSounds great how about 0.5 or 1?
hmm I think it should half the cooldown of any skills that are currently on cooldown.
E.G: Rain of Blades is on 22 cooldown, if you change stance it reduces to 11
then again I'm not sure if that'd be too strong o.o
Display MoreDisplay MoreDisplay MoreHaru is an extremely boring, 2 ability = main DPS character right now. The purpose of this rework is to reduce how much Haru players rely on those 2 skills and make it more about her using her whole kit. Also the Stance alterations are a much more interesting implementation for Haru. It allows players to have the sense of management and smart play with Haru. Knowing when to alter between the two.
Yagyu4k works hard on these and honestly instead of just slamming the guys ideas I think it'd be better to leave something more constructive. Even looking into the numbers a bit is possible if Yagy feels they may need tweaking.
Additionally Yagy, a possible suggestion. To make Haru's like frequent switchings, maybe reduces the cooldown of any abilities currently on cooldown when she switchesCooldown instead of movement speed?
Probs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpaiSounds great how about 0.5 or 1?
hmm I think it should half the cooldown of any skills that are currently on cooldown.
E.G: Rain of Blades is on 22 cooldown, if you change stance it reduces to 11then again I'm not sure if that'd be too strong o.o
Dont get me wrong but this is completely overpowered xD
Display MoreCooldown instead of movement speed?
Probs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpaiSounds great how about 0.5 or 1?
hmm I think it should half the cooldown of any skills that are currently on cooldown.
E.G: Rain of Blades is on 22 cooldown, if you change stance it reduces to 11then again I'm not sure if that'd be too strong o.o
Dont get me wrong but this is completely overpowered xD
Mmm maybe make the cooldown reduction differ on the kind of ability?
So ones that are good for spam/ actual combat combos get a massive reduction where as powerful abilities like Rain of Blades still get a reduction but not as much?
Display MoreProbs, I think it would possibly benefit the alteration to her kit a bit more
Up to you of course, senpaiSounds great how about 0.5 or 1?
hmm I think it should half the cooldown of any skills that are currently on cooldown.
E.G: Rain of Blades is on 22 cooldown, if you change stance it reduces to 11then again I'm not sure if that'd be too strong o.o
Dont get me wrong but this is completely overpowered xD
Mmm maybe make the cooldown reduction differ on the kind of ability?
So ones that are good for spam/ actual combat combos get a massive reduction where as powerful abilities like Rain of Blades still get a reduction but not as much?
Def stance
Therefore she get 5% additional sab in berserk
Absolutely not. Don't turn Haru into a generic World of Warcraft warrior class, battle stance,defensive stance, berserker stance? You serious? This is ridiculous. Stop copying things from other bland MMO's it has no place here.
I personally like haru as she is, though some of the changes u stated would be nice, one example being the static buff from blade breaker and arena storm, but removing the sf buff from blow up and turning it into an attack is just stupid. your basically saying any haru player would need to get hidden ava to do any decent sustained damage because her sf consumption is harus biggest downside. Also your burning reductions, i dont agree with, burning isnt all that powerful in late game, i basicaly use it to increase my combo. the wind rupture changes i also dont agree with, wind rupture is a staple late game damager. i have no idea how you play haru, but i dont even know how you would implement a stance change, her left click is for sf regen. i think shes balanced as she is, each character has there own niche, harus is burst dps, not sustained. Plus u also have to realize something, Haru is meant to be the beginner, lowest difficulty class, and with introducing mode changes, your making her a higher difficulty rating on par with stella. So all in all i dont agree with changing her, i like her as she is.
I personally like haru as she is, though some of the changes u stated would be nice, one example being the static buff from blade breaker and arena storm, but removing the sf buff from blow up and turning it into an attack is just stupid. your basically saying any haru player would need to get hidden ava to do any decent sustained damage because her sf consumption is harus biggest downside. Also your burning reductions, i dont agree with, burning isnt all that powerful in late game, i basicaly use it to increase my combo. the wind rupture changes i also dont agree with, wind rupture is a staple late game damager. i have no idea how you play haru, but i dont even know how you would implement a stance change, her left click is for sf regen. i think shes balanced as she is, each character has there own niche, harus is burst dps, not sustained. Plus u also have to realize something, Haru is meant to be the beginner, lowest difficulty class, and with introducing mode changes, your making her a higher difficulty rating on par with stella. So all in all i dont agree with changing her, i like her as she is.
Like the above last word too i like her as she is, and absolutly "no" to this.
