Remove the rngboxes completely, Gameforge

    I want to play SW with many people, actually it doesn't matter which server, the cities are empty and nobody is doing anything anymore.

    SW with 5 active players isn't fun, I miss the people I played with and I want to bring them back to the game but I can't offer them any good news to motivate them actually.

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    - Ok, that's it. You're expecting Primal to be something that will hold you for like 1 whole month ?

    Primal is as easy than the casual raids. GC is like a 100 times harder.

    You want to grind Primal and enjoy it ? You won't.

    Primal isn't trully a "content". Stop expecting too much from it, it's a number-limited entry, you have to farm tickets from clearing GC, drop rates are hard.
    Stop saying you're "Waiting for Primal", cause all you'll will do with it ARE THE EXACT SAME THING YOU'RE CURRENTLY DOING.



    GCC is more of a huge content than Primal.




    - Once again, you're only crying about the "Sun breeze Box". BUT DUDE, KOREA REALISED THOSE OUTFIT THIS YEAR, FOR THIS SUMMER, YOU SHOULD BE THANKING GAMEFORGE FOR PUTTING THEM IN THE LOOTBOXES.


    COME ON, if they wanted they could have just given us the FIRST summer costume, and we would have had to wait 3 @edit summers to get them, just like korea did. SO PLEASE, STOP CLINGING TO THIS OUTFIT AND IT'S LOOTBOX, who said it wouldn't be out in the shop for a direct purchase next year ?


    => back from the "i don't want to wait" again.


    Loot boxes are lootboxes, they exist everywhere, stop complaining about those because this if GameForge.


    - Gold sellers are almost gone, when i'm hanging in Rucco now I just see time to time gold bots from here to there. A HUGE DIFFERENCE ABOUT BETA when you couldn't even speak with someone due to the spamming. And we almost can't see any bots using megaphone.


    They did put a lot of DZ into the market, but no whatter what they do, no matter how old the game will be, it would have ended this way.
    SoulWorker does not destroy enough gold at the moment, more and more people go dropping raids => more DZ in the market => higher prices. Only solution => Destroy the amount of DZ players have AND EVEN IF GAMEFORGE DID IT, there would still be people crying here because "after all the farm I did, GF killed my gold".
    Stop it, just stop.

    We have decent servers (and yeah, i saw what happened to NA, but that's just a couple days issues, otherwise they ARE DOING JUST FINE), we have content that we shouldn't be getting (Summer events, EXTRA raids).



    It just seems that you guys just want to complain about GameForge and are making excuses that shouldn't be existing.


    This is trully getting ridiculous.


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    No gold sellers because of 0 players.

    The game isn't worth it for them anymore.


    They prefer active games like Tera, Blade n Soul or whatever, because they have tons of players.

    Everyday a bunch of players give up on SW and play something else instead (or the *** server).


    Its really frustrating to see everyone leave + see how many guilds (good guilds) are dying.

    They won't come back until the transparency is better, more patchnotes with everything.


    No nerfed XP or drop rates or upgrade rates (RNG for upgrades is bad anyway, also counts for the asian market)


    Leave a game like it is (the korean version) its absolutely fine except the upgrade system (the reputation feature for Trisha is still missing, the feature exist for a very long time in korea and japan already, even taiwan now).


    I support everything as long its good for the game and rescue the player base. (I'm not talking about events now)


    Indeed Primal is kinda boring but you have to farm it for a very long time if you want a good primal set.


    Fairness > content/bugfixes/server stability > everything else like housing for example.



    Imagine if a big company like Blizzard would do it, they lost one time 4 million subs in 1 night (I dont know the reasons anymore but it was similar)

    Even EA-G removed the lootboxes now and apologized. I mean even EA? I was really surprised.

    Gambling without any guarantee is prohibited in many countries. (even japanese gacha mobile games guarantee you a loot after X- try's.

    You know why FATE/GO doesn't exist it europe? Exactly that's why, its prohibited.

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    They servers not decent at all. GF's SoulWorker version is getting shittalked from literally every other SoulWorker version out there. We have barely players to even play primal but healthy server I guess. Also you can play Primal on every character you have. Having at least 3 characters shouldn't be a problem with that much "prepare time" they gave us.

    They can release newest uptodate fashion Outfits and Housing but not the content that we cried for :). I am not thankful for that at all since it shows what they are truly cared for after all.

    To be honest there should be a public survey to all GF's SoulWorker core problems and questions. I would be 100% confident that most of the people would, will or already left because of those "excuses".

    And what do you mean there are nearly no goldsellers around anymore? I am still seeing them everday. well maybe they are posting in the megaphone 20-30 times a day instead of a 100 times.

    SoulWorker is a grinding game alright. You want to farm your next gear after finishing the current one. And the next gear avaible in Primal is still not released after 4 bonafide months. So all we could do is altfarming or playing the 5 raids we currently have.


    That's only my opinion :)And my opinion is, this soulworker version is screwed up.

    everything will come to an end~

    To be fair, I'm not talking bad about anyone at all ;)

    I'm just trying to support them to increase the playerbase and keep them in the game. I love the game and I'm pretty sure everyone else feel the same.


    The game deserve love by the development and the publisher, it doesn't matter what happened. Many bad decisions yeah I agree but it doesn't mean that nobody is able to do something.


    Let's work with the community + their managers together. My partner agent is aware as well and she agree with me.


    Don't give up and support it, we have a general change thread in the suggestion forum, feel free to suggest your ideas, Threea like the thread and is reading new updates.


    Cheers

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    Jesus dude, you're delusional af.


    I've played a number of mmos including ffxi, ffxiv, tera, bdo etc.

    SW is a casual game by design, it's not difficult and if you're willing to spend more money on it you are better at it, simple as that. Almost every single aspect of this game has a p2w style but i'm sure you'll disagree with that instead of responding rationally..


    I'm not interested in the current outfit, and also there are none being sold currently, the only one i've noticed be sold was bought for 8b which I am not farming for, considering how useless this game's economy is and GF's inability to fix it.


    Yeah, I've grinded the game a ton and let me tell you having rewards based solely on rng is not fun at all. I grinded to full progress for GC on 2 characters, I have big plastica hidden and upgraded without spending any money for it, I think that shows you how much i've grinded.


    The whole current argument is that the future is bleak, future costumes which look nice are more than likely going to be put into lootboxes, in fact i'd be surprised if ever future costume wasn't in a lootbox from now on considering how much GF made off of scamming people. Yes, lootboxes are a scam especially SW's.


    Also not even talking about the content, the current updates we've had are laughable at best what i'd like is a similar version to KR with the same exp gain, same drop rates etc, not this bs lowered rate so we spend more time uselessly grinding.

    I know how communities work, how to keep games alive and still make a great profit ;)

    I have a lot of experience and all of my previous game projects are still alive with a decent community (amount of fans).


    Make your community angry 1 time ok, keep them angry and they'll never forgive you or give your "upcoming" games a chance.


    I'm pretty sure I understand how marketing works ;)

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    This whole RNG lootbox debate is something I really can't fathom. How is it any company's fault for you to willingly buy lootboxes?! I mean, what the actual fizzle!


    It's your choice to spend your money any way you like. Throwing your money at RNG boxes is not Gameforge's or any company's fault for that matter. It's always your own decision. You being easily influenced and thus buying into some 'virtual' probability is not the company's fault. Where is all that BS even coming from? Has this generation of gamers come to the point where we blame everyone else but ourselves!


    It's an entirely different matter if loot boxes give you an edge over other players. Players most likely, depending on how good the game is - who aren't willing to pay for these boxes will leave - a dead game!


    Also, sure - minors shouldn't be exposed to such early game of hazard - but then yet again, shouldn't your legal guardians be doing sth. in the first place, I don't know - control your online habits?


    This is the stupidest thing I've read all week!

    This is not your decision to make. Again, Lion Games and Gameforge are working together - this is a partnership. How come that all the blame is thrown at Gameforge and not at Lion Games for not setting clearer boundaries/exempting e.g. lootboxes?


    Hosting a server nowadays is pretty cheap! @edit How come that supporting people that do absolutely nothing for the further development of Soulworker be a valid suggestion in any shape or form?

    Your whole argumentation is pure BS. That's some next level hypocrisy right there.

    On one side you claim to love the game but 'understand' people leaving because - the illegal publisher cares more about its players?


    How do they show 'understanding' for a game by stealing a chunk of potential players. Private servers are never okay. EVER! Regardless of how bad the publisher/developer might be, stealing the content of someone else is the worst you can do.

    Why don't the geniuses at BSW create a new game if their way of doing this is so great and stuff??


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    Again your argumentation makes no sense!


    You are not better at Soulworker when you spend more money! This goes against the whole RNG debate we, or I at least thought, were discussing! Spending more money ONLY - pls don't spout nonsense - generates a higher chance of 'better' items. Buying 100 Akasha cubes might give you 100-5Star cards or it might also give you 100-2Star Cards. That is chance.

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    Actually it doesn't show your "grind"! Chance, who knows you might have opened three akashas and received 3 Hidden Big Plastica or you might have opened over 200 hundred. You should probably revisit your comment before posting it - so your chain of thought makes sense.

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    "More than likely" - so you don't know it, right? This is your only argument? Costumes. Again, they don't break the game. You can buy costumes through the cash shop (spend real money) or grind. You know, to show your support for the game.

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    How is Gameforge scamming anyone? Holy fizzle ... Could you be any more shallow with your choice of words?

    See, you don't even give proper examples for your argumentation. You just throw some words around.


    So, loot boxes are a scam but SW are especially scammy! So what now? There are lootboxes which are less of a scam? Are they slightly more scammy than other games lootboxes which are also scammy but not super scammy? /s

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    Soulworker has been out since 2015. You want content that has been developed for three years straight in a year because we are some very special snowflakes., right? But what then? What will Gameforge do when everything was given to its players? Develop sth on the spot? Since we all know that's their forte. Or ask Lion Games, the AAA studio which has so many people working for them?


    Could the mods please hire this guy! He clearly knows the intricacies of online games!

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    In all seriousness though, please think before posting. Gameforge isn't your enemy here. They've brought a game to the West and they are actually - not like BSW - supporting a game, we - or at least I am quite fond of. I'd rather have a 'bad' publisher support a great game than have a private server which does absolutely nothing for the game's future!

    I've had my fare share of problems with Gameforge myself. But despite all that I still play their games. If you hate them so much, you don't have to play the game. But I get tired of these threads bashing Gameforge or any publisher for not doing it the way I (the very special player) want it.


    And this is coming from someone who has been playing Gameforge games for 8 years despite the problems I've had with them. And I ensure you, I've had them all from deleted account to in-game-currency loss. I've learned and moved on - maybe you should do the same and leave them if it angers you to that extent.


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    Nocturne I get you but why risk it to lose many players? (The lootboxes are not the only one reason, I'll put something into my thread later on for a solution).


    But yes, my goal is it to promote the game since its just lovely but kinda difficult with all these problems actually.


    As Publisher: do a good job and you lose may just a few bored players but you'll still get a lot more new players and you're even able to motivate them to buy stuff in the store (which is important to keep the development alive, aka. new content by LG or whoever).


    Games are a bit like politics, act fair with your citizens, provide them a good life (just to be satisfied) and they buy a lot more stuff. Like a new car, tv or whatever. Believe it or not, its true ;) everyone in this business can confirm it (that's why some companies have very smart strategies nowadays)

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    The amount of blind rage and pure stupidity in your response is ridiculous.
    It's honestly amazing that you blindly support Gameforge after blatant poor decisions. People like you aren't focusing on improving the game but acting as if it is fine as is. Your kind is the reason Gameforge doesn't make any changes.

    Not to mention GCC = About 1 day to complete, including level up maybe a week?

    Primal = As I said, people want this as their main gear. I agree the ticket system is dumb. But DO NOT dare say that primal, a grind that'd last a month or more to get good roll gear is not worthy enough content to occupy people.

    Your stupidity honestly surpasses me that you would even say that a tiny mid-season story is more than an actual raid... my god it just hurts my brain.

    Blind supporters are more damaging to the game than anything, you seem to not see a flaw in our version compared to others, that is why I see you as blind.
    Either way, you didn't seem to read all of my response so from now on I'm just going to ignore your response because if you have such little effort to understand others PoV's, you don't deserve to be considered a constructive member of the community

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    I'd rather not say anything at all than crying everytime GameForge makes a decision, if you can't read other answers, that's not my problem.


    I'm just playing and not complaining. Do you realize that everything I said was just because i'm tired of seeing dumb excuses just to bring down GameForge ?


    Without GameForge you would have never played this game.

    Just @eidt open your eyes, and stop beeing a crybaby everytime you do not agree with others choices.


    So please, keep loosing your time crying here for whatever dumb reasons.



    You're saying i'm the biggest threat to a gaming community without saying anything, but how can you even think of beeing taken seriously if all you do is yell EVERYDAY for ANYTHING.




    As you said, i'm loosing my time here too. You guys can't think clearly, you're blindfolded and cling to your opinions.


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    Holy crap, without Gameforge I would never have played JP or BSW? right that makes sense. I support the Western Official because I feel it's my duty as a fan of SOULWORKER not GAMEFORGE.
    I dont 'cry' over every decision. It's called feedback, you know the thing that improves a game.
    I wouldn't be trying to 'take down Gameforge' if they listened to the community and weren't blatantly milking it.

    The only person who is blind and needs to open their eyes is you. Your status on soulworker is completely moronic and honestly I hope this game doesn't change for the better just to show you how wrong you were.

    The only one who clings to opinions is you, you couldn't be bothered to read my whole response. You're contributing nothing to this game by pretending its okay.

    I honestly hate people like you, wish people like you genuinely didn't exist

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    It's more like we are crying because they didn't do any decisions yet, did they?

    Like how could you not realise it? Are you even playing the game? nothing major changed in the last 4 months.

    And I hope you won't count Gronco, Housing and Iris as major updates.

    Also we are not blindfolded clinging to our opinions but we have reasons with arguments that can't denied while you are saying that the game is fine all the time. Our version has the smallest population of all the servers so what do you mean we would never have started this game? I didn't come across SoulWorker because of GameForge's great publishing skills or steam.

    Anyway I am being active here because I want them to change. I want a reason to play here instead of the asian servers. Our version needs to be more appealing and being 2 years behind from every other version is already a big minus point to start here. The patches are being slower translated and adjusted than LionGames developes new content, I am not even joking here because it's true.

    The only thing that keeps me here are some friends I made playing here and a great amount of time I invested here.

    Let's be honest here if a completely new players could decide between our server and other servers with cons and pro's listed not a single one would come to us. And that's only the content problem I listed. There are several ther cons like less brooches and akashas, not being able to trade brooches, goldsellers, not being able to find a party anytime, hard to get the outfits you want... etc.

    But yea we are all wasting time I guess if this keeps going on. :)

    everything will come to an end~

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    Our version needs to be more appealing and being 2 years behind from every other version is already a big minus point to start here. The patches are being slower translated and adjusted than LionGames developes new content, I am not even joking here because it's true.


    So, what would you like ? 2 years worth of content right away ?

    And then what ?


    I've already told you that. this is the worst idea ever. You just can't wait, i'd love seeing you translate all the korean from the skills, to the story, quest, options, and so many things that would take you YEARS to do.

    The stuff is translated and localized already.

    Its not about the content speed its more about to follow the original release path instead of rolling the updates randomly.

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    Yes. I want content on pair with KR and other servers RIGHT AWAY. What do you mean and what? Do you know how long it takes to farm AoV? We would be at least busy for half a year if you are are a casual player. Not even metioning AoV, farming Primal will also take a while.


    Yo bro, you are trolling. that stuff they have to translate takes year? Are you trying to fool me? A friend of me read out loud the story for me in english from korean because I couldn't understand it. If even my friend can fan translate it in few hours professional should do it faster, no? Idk if primal speaks few sentences but AoV does and that's so little text thats a hour job for every language avaiable in SoulWorker. So don't come with a years time of work. Translating isn't as near as hard as to program new content. And guess what, LG is developing faster than we are translating. what a joke.

    everything will come to an end~

    Did I talk about GameForge translating ? I told you to do their job, since all you do is criticize it, you must be better than them, right ?


    And if you had ALL of the content released at once, there would be no group for GC, nor Primal

    everyone would try to look for a group and wouldn't find any. This is the dumbest idea i've ever read.

    you would have people with level 53 gear trying to clear GC, people with half aurith gear trying to clear Primal, and @edit level 60 yellow gear people trying to clear Altar of Void. This is not even is the slightest possible.


    Look at what you say, this is @edit

    We already have trouble looking for correct GC groups cause of the half geared @edit that are too lazy to grind anything.

    Having all of the content would make this 10 times worse.


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