Posts by Miya

    Seeing the responses after they finally reply could answer why sometimes they choose not to. Even when they do everything right, there will always be an issue.

    How can you even defend this?

    The reason people are upset is because the questions were simple, would have taken very little time to answer and the responses we've received from GF representatives have been so delayed it just blatantly shows. People aren't hating or criticising this for no reason, how hard is it? Like there's no reason it to have been delayed for so long and most of the questions that were asked back then aren't even applicable anymore or people stopped caring. "When's primal?" we already have the answer to that as an example.


    Other mmos have their Q+A posted on the same day as I mentioned prior even ones which feature people who don't speak english at all (ffxiv is a good example)


    I give credit where credit is due, GF have done some decent things with SW but every time they ruin it straight after with their lack of interest with the community, greed and how little work they put into SW. (editing a video should not take 1-2months)


    This is why I say they shouldn't bother anymore, most people got their answers over the time they've been waiting for this Q+A to come out.

    Okay , so you are just not caring much about us then, for hours of problems we got something in compensation but for days ? we only got a sorry we are not good on communication.


    To keep in mind to be a good community manager ^^

    to be fair the EN server was down for around 4 days one time a few months back and there wasn't a single word from staff or any follow up whatsoever.

    From all honesty, Gameforge is not as bad as people make it out to be. If anything, there are "okay." Just like mentioned in other posts, the log in rewards are nice, and they do listen to some feedback. At the beginning, the huge turn down for most of the people was the huge xp and increase of difficulty, but other than that, I can't recall much. But in reality, if there is something to blame is not the publisher, but the genre.

    You must be joking here. Gameforge doesn't care if you log in or not, the stuff you get for logging in is mostly trash aside from maybe 5 days in a whole month and don't let me get started about the staying online reward.

    It's free stuff, are you complaining about free stuff? Honestly nobody in here in entitled to anything, and the log in reward are 80-90% better than all the games I've played. Most don't even have anything at all.

    You aren't exactly up to date with games then. And if you are fine getting junk per mail, then so be it.

    That is not the point I am trying to make. They have the option to remove all this free stuff we get, but they decided not to. Beggars can't be choosers, appreciate what you get. If you don't like that, then move on.

    I mean he's not wrong, the rewards are complete garbage for the most part while all over versions of the game have much better up to date rewards.

    The login rewards our version gets are aimed towards a new player.


    I would actually rather receive nothing than have another 3 star grutin card take up bank space.

    Other companies which require translators and don't have English speakers even get these Q+As done within hours, month gone by and no answers will be posted, they forgot/don't care enough to give you their oh so precious time.

    just because you saw some whales in game doesnt mean that the game is p2w and what is the purpose of having a +9 at lv 4 anyway?

    You completely missed the entire point everytime I post, I even tried to make it as simple as possible to understand.


    You say there's no p2w elements, I say there is - I've shown proof that you CAN p2w it doesn't matter if I say lvl 4, 40, 55 or 60 its the same in that you can pay to upgrade your weapon and armour to insane levels which a regular player, even someone who farms cannot do.


    Nope

    Beta players are a myth.

    Also farming was way easier back then with the 24hr character deletion and sure they might be holding onto those anti des, but what for? GC wep? primal wep? aov? in the end a new weapon will come out that will inevitably make their weapon obsolete, which is in itself another reason that only whales bother to +9 their weapon.

    The only thing you can consider p2w here are Suzie, Nita and Nara AK cause they cant be farmed, but if you can farm an item with the same rng is not "pay to win" its just "pay to need to play less" you are basically paying for time cause is an item you can obtain but whit money you can obtain it faster.

    P2W is when the game give you a real advantaje over the others if you pay and farm the most your the strongest cause is like you play more than the others but no p2w cause you didnt buy an item that give you a massive advantaje i dont consider this game a p2w for this reason. I am not trying anyone to think the same but i see it like this.

    I'll just say that the only people I've seen get +9 have all been renowned whales and leave it there, they have an incredible advantage over everyone else because they paid for tons of anti destructions and sold fashion/might have bought money for wuc.


    A level 4 could have a +9 weapon if they spent enough irl money on it while it is literally impossible for a level 4 to do it through farming.

    Yes, because you're paying money... to obtain an advantage over others... that's the whole concept of p2w... most f2p are p2w...


    Honestly your concept of what is and isn't p2w is interesting, if there's rng attached it isn't p2w to you so all those mobile games with gacha aren't p2w in your eyes.


    If there's an item or weapon in a game that gives a massive stat boost that you can obtain through farming but is random and such a low chance that people won't go through the trouble, while the item is available in the cash shop with the same rng is that p2w or not to you? (you're skipping the farming by paying irl money.)

    That's because 95% of them are.


    If I buy 50 akasha that's 50 more akasha than someone who didn't pay for it, even if they're bad cards they would still benefit me as I'd be able to upgrade my other akasha not to mention the increased chance of a good card compared to someone who is farming days for them.


    same with anti destruction even if the upgrade fails that was still more chances than someone who didn't pay.


    In the same way I could buy fashion items and sell them for insane amounts in game which I can then use to buy whatever I want that's on the market.


    Do you not think Gacha games are freemium?

    For p2w, there is not really a true p2w i would say because item like akashas, brooches are RNG...


    I will never understand how anyone can even think that..if anything it makes it more p2w.


    Just because it has rng elements doesn't mean that its not p2w. :jin3:

    Agree completely, Gameforge has shown that it doesn't care about the community at all. Just look at the suggestions page of this forum, I think literally none of the suggestions that have been posted have been implemented into the game even though some are what the game really needs. I don't know why anyone even bothers to post there anymore.


    Gameforge is trash and so are the staff. The only one who even does anything on the forum is Arp anyway, none of the other staff cares.

    You're the one who lacks experience if you think Lily even comes close to Haru's damage. A Lily with +8 and primary focus on crit% and crit dmg will deal so much less than a Haru with okay stats and a +6 weapon.


    If you think Lily has no sf issues and Haru has sf issues then you're actually delusional, play as Lily for 10 minutes then come back. Enjoy your "perfect stats" and "season wins (totally not carried by haru btw)"


    Also don't know why you're bragging, must be nice trying to act hardcore in a casual game. I had 10 puffles on club penguin "git gud".

    I mean Haru was undoubtedly the best character in the game until Iris came along, and with Adv she isn't even bad she just lacks SA break. Saying that Haru is worse than Lily shows that you've not once played Lily, Haru has 0 issues with SF and if you have issues with SF on haru I don't know what to tell you while Lily has a ton of SF issues (crit buff takes 50% of SF). Her cooldowns are also super long.


    Haru's dmg is also super amped up in comparison and saying Lily's skills are safe is almost laughable when you can die through her "invincible" ultimate.


    I don't main Haru or Lily and the comparison is so obvious if you've played both to 55 that Haru is waaay stronger than Lily.

    Gameforge can learn from Ncsoft's Blade and Soul. They literally removed RNG from weapon uupgrades as they know the western audience isn't gonna stick around long for these type of things. In the Korean version of Blade and Soul you still have to deal with RNG when you upgrade your weapon.

    Upgrade systems are built to reward whales, gf won't remove it or buff our rates permanently because they want money over player satisfaction. Our version has the lowest upgrade rate of all servers which is just typical gameforge.

    The point with lootboxes is that some people REALLY want the outfit, they expect to pay a fixed sum for it as it was in every other version of the game, I know people who were desperate for it and spent waaay too much money on these lootboxes.


    Yeah, its the individuals fault for buying lootboxes, but lootboxes are an enabler and is literally just gambling.. your whole argument about this is "stop spending money" tell that to the hundreds and thousands of people who waste their life savings away in casinos. It feeds off of people's addictions and it honestly disgusts me that you think that preying on the weak minded is an ok and just thing to do. (Also the lootboxes do give you items that can give you an edge over others so that argument is pretty invalid.)


    I agree that parents should control their kids online behaviour, but as you can see with the SW community that they don't.


    And if that's the stupidest thing you've read all week, then I highly suggest you do more reading.


    No one said it was my decision to make I'm merely stating that it shouldn't have been a thing if you compare the other versions, in fact please do that. Compare the JP and KR versions with ours, tell me Gameforge is doing a great job after that.


    Partnerships work both ways, Gameforge can quite as easily request specific content at a specific date and expect their requests to be met. The same way they've obviously requested that these items be put into lootboxes and LG has complied.

    The reason Gameforge gets the flak of the hate? Isn't it obvious that GF is the one requesting these unnecessary changes in the first place? Again, compare the different versions.


    Nowhere did I agree with what BSW has been doing, they're stealing from LG which is incredibly scummy. What I actually said is that I understand that the playerbase wants to switch because that version has what most people want. Don't take my words out of context.


    "You're not better at SW when you spend more money" good god, that's the stupidest thing I've read all week.

    I've not seen a single person have a +9 weapon who hadn't sunk a ton of money into getting it. The +9 weapon is way more powerful than +6-7 which is the typical amount non-whales can obtain. Saying that there's no p2w system because its RNG is completely idiotic and quite frankly shows how blind you are to the issues.


    Its more than likely due to the fact that each costume that has been released since the first lootbox has been in a lootbox, thought it was obvious but I guess sometimes you have to elaborate for the stupid.


    Again, lootboxes are essentially a scam, you're just picking apart words in an attempt to form an argument, very childish. And yes, there are lootboxes that are less of a scam as they provide a 100% chance to obtain rare items when you open a set number of them, I actually mentioned this prior.


    People expect some content to be released during the time the game is alive, if there were more content upon release or closer to it - the game would have had a more consistent playerbase. >>> See Bless online.


    It's called feedback, companies can change their policies and have shown to do so in the past. (as Yagyu stated even EA changed one of their policies due to feedback) if you don't like it, don't read it.


    Gameforge has a bad rep for a reason, it baffles me how people like you can turn a blind eye and defend their business model, although with the constant stream of childish insults you've posted in response I can quite clearly see why.

    Jesus dude, you're delusional af.


    I've played a number of mmos including ffxi, ffxiv, tera, bdo etc.

    SW is a casual game by design, it's not difficult and if you're willing to spend more money on it you are better at it, simple as that. Almost every single aspect of this game has a p2w style but i'm sure you'll disagree with that instead of responding rationally..


    I'm not interested in the current outfit, and also there are none being sold currently, the only one i've noticed be sold was bought for 8b which I am not farming for, considering how useless this game's economy is and GF's inability to fix it.


    Yeah, I've grinded the game a ton and let me tell you having rewards based solely on rng is not fun at all. I grinded to full progress for GC on 2 characters, I have big plastica hidden and upgraded without spending any money for it, I think that shows you how much i've grinded.


    The whole current argument is that the future is bleak, future costumes which look nice are more than likely going to be put into lootboxes, in fact i'd be surprised if ever future costume wasn't in a lootbox from now on considering how much GF made off of scamming people. Yes, lootboxes are a scam especially SW's.


    Also not even talking about the content, the current updates we've had are laughable at best what i'd like is a similar version to KR with the same exp gain, same drop rates etc, not this bs lowered rate so we spend more time uselessly grinding.

    And you'll find the exact same problem sooner or later, no matter what server you're on. Good luck beeing dumb, must be hard every day ;)

    Can you like, not lick gameforge's ass for 5 mins please?


    lootboxes are disgusting and are banned in some countries, many companies get a lot of backlash because of them due to the gambling and rng nature, and also human nature "what if this is the one that pays off?" "I got one good item maybe I'll get another..." to counter much of the rng nature a lot of other companies have a system where every milestone of lootboxes (say 5) you open, you get a 100% chance of a good item.


    In the first place the clothing items shouldn't have been in lootboxes, they weren't in lootboxes for other versions of the game.. why ours?


    It's also stupid that GF does all these things to inconvenience the player, less exp gain and ninja nerfs for example. I can understand why people would want to go to BSW, at least their team are competent in adjusting the game to suit the player and not their wallets.


    There's so many bugs in the GF version of soulworker that it's almost unplayable sometimes.