Posts by Lathander

    We have received updates several times which contained changes that not even Gameforge knew about...

    Lion Games is responsible for patching and not even they know themselves what they are doing most of the time so how are you expecting them to put together comprehensive patch notes? Even if they did, would you trust them? I think Gameforge doesn't, and I totally see why.

    So you are telling me that Gameforge dont know what patches are coming to their game. This is straight bull. Even if it was the truth that is a even worse implication. Ignorance or willful ignorance is really not except able when it come to a company providing you service. You really deserve better my friend.

    Go ahead and tell me sometime that isn't a bug and is missing in the notes. If you can't give a straight answer, you the criticism isn't justified. You could say there are some QA issues, but then I have to ask: Did you ever had to QA any kind of software with an upcoming deadline? It's more complicated then it looks.


    You won't get notes about something nobody knows about. I am really sorry if you can't understand that simple logic.


    Edit: Nobody said something about bugfixes. It was about bugs being implemented. And yes, as a software developer, I do know what I am taking about. It is literally my job to know that.

    First of all, this is not my game. Its not my job to comb thru the game looking for bugs. I go to work and do my job. I dont hollar out its too hard and not do my job. You know what would happen? I would get fired. If they dont even know bugs are in their game and they dont bother to look on their forums then why are they a game company? We dont have to be software developers to know when people are full of it.

    That's a bug. Bugs beeing in the patch notes is rather rare.


    By the way I am fully aware what the intention of the statement was. This was a rhetorical question. The answer is obviously nothing.

    Do you even have access to the internet? Bugs in patchnotes are not rare...literally every MMO and even Monster Hunter World has better patch notes and it includes bug fixes. If they are rare in the games you play then man...please treat yourself better my friend. Life is short!

    Sorry bro but all i can see on your post is negativity. trezert you said you played 200 + hrs of this game? Im on 416hrs bro but every singel day i learn something new about the game. In different aspects. Don’t get me wrong bro my 1st 2weeks of this game is horrible 1st is the hype thing and suddenly all the changes, bugs, patch notes etc. and i reach to that moment that why should i even play and pay for this game now. But i stayed and give this game a chance. And now i don’t even regret staying on this game even so many people (esp on forums) that are so negative on this game. This game is not perfect it has own flaws. 1 simple rule bro don’t let the other people dictate of what you want and how you enjoy something. Peace!

    I love that everyone co-sign on this but did you even read that he said before you typed this response? This game is terrible even by f2p standards. It could have been so great. However, the op was kind enough to at least give some feedback. If you are going to blindly support this game..at least be honest enough with yourself to see when someone is giving much needed criticism.

    What is missing?

    Really man..*smh*. Im not sure if you just want to be right or do you really not have a problem with this? Please dont tell me that tired lines about other games doing the same thing, at least they game us something, its doest bother me or they are trying their best. You are on these forums non-stop in defense mode why?

    Here:

    - Changes –

    • Implementation of technical security measures against gold spammers
    • Exchange of some untradeable shop items for tradeable ones (more details tomorrow).

    The following premium-items are now tradeable:

    • Akasha Transmitter
    • Premium Standard Brooch Transmitter
    • Standard Attack Brooch Transmitter
    • Standard Defence Brooch Transmitter
    • Standard Effect Brooch Transmitter
    • Anti-Destruction
    • Respawner
    • Team Respawn
    • Inventory Expansion Ticket
    • Brooch Fuser
    • Brooch Extractor
    • Brooch Puncher
    • Armour Restorer
    • Strength Expansion Ticket
    • Restoration Reducer
    • Peak Power Vitamin G
    • Dynamite Power Vitamin Z
    • Skill Reset Ticket
    • Skill Tree Reset Ticket
    • Warehouse Expansion Ticket
    • Name Change Request Form

    "Complete" Patch notes...

    It was a suggesting to them since they are listening. I mean if they are worried that much about the cashshop why give an outfit at all. People are going to spend money regardless. A little good will goes a long way. GF just let people choose which outfit and people will love you!

    Wow...why not just hook up the people that played beta with the npc outfits if they want them. You still going to sell outfits..and the darling is ugly af.

    For Erwin is a good outfit.

    But for Haru... meh, it's a "free" outfit, but I am into "NPC costume"

    Exactly, why not just let people keep them and keep it moving. There is really no reason to take it away. These people have already spent a grip in the cash.

    As far as i see there are many gaming companies that are doing the same thing. Specially Free to Play games. Maintaining the game is not easy or cheap. They need to get money somewhere. But ofc there are "better" way to make money but mostly it benefit us not them. If this type of promotion/event or what ever you call is too expensive then this is not for you.

    First of all even if there were other companies doing the same this its not right. Saying that as a defense is ludicrous once you think about it. Second we all know games are not cheap or easy to maintain but tell me how them throwing a cash shop out in a beta is helping us and not them?! Lastly, what promotion are you talking about? All I see is an over priced cashshop and a company ignoring its player base unless it concerns the cashshop. When I say overpriced im comparing it to other games on the market. I wish people would stop trying to win an argument and see were someone is trying to tell you the game is screwing you. Im all for giving money to games but why not give it to companies that deserve it?

    Talking to you is like talking to someone that only see thing one way. Look im not protecting or defending this company but im just giving some respect to them. If you dont have a experience or knowledge about running business then i recommend highly to keep your mouth shut. IMO the way you say is like "please give me free stuffs or you are shet". Well i used to talk like that too when i was a kid :haru3:

    Im trying to not make dramas or arguing with you here but dude you are playing free to play game and they give you an options to obtain in game items faster by supporting them so they can keep the game running. Me personally dont buy thing that is overprice imo but if i dont buy it do i need to come on forum to call that the company is shet? :lilly1: dafuq?!

    I think it's funny how people always have to attack people on a personal level on these forums and then say "im not trying to cause drama". I know how buisness works. You can stay in buisness and not treat people like idiots. They know what they are doing and they know you guys will defend them and get angry at us instead of thinking for your self. They make polarizing decisions and they know their whales and supporters will stand up. What you are really mad at is someone talking negatively about your game and in turn you feel like you need to say something. I don't have to know about buisness to know $70 is ludacris.

    Lol im done with you :D:D:D

    You were done from the start. God forbid you take away anything...just give up because being right is more important that seeing someone's point.

    We want GF to make an official announcement about the game, issues players are having and their plans for the game.

    As mentioned already, it will be done. We simply can't do it right now since we are still in beta and we are collecting feedback, improving technical stuffs and resolving some issues. But please be sure that as soon as we can, we will provide more details and announce the commercial release. Thank you in advance!

    Thank you for responding. Since you are commenting, can you give us a brief view of the issues or concerns you guys are looking into. So people are not hanging in the balance not knowing if they are being heard. I understand you guys are busy but think just a little summary would work wonders for your pr. Thanks

    I think it's funny how people always have to attack people on a personal level on these forums and then say "im not trying to cause drama". I know how buisness works. You can stay in buisness and not treat people like idiots. They know what they are doing and they know you guys will defend them and get angry at us instead of thinking for your self. They make polarizing decisions and they know their whales and supporters will stand up. What you are really mad at is someone talking negatively about your game and in turn you feel like you need to say something. I don't have to know about buisness to know $70 is ludacris.

    Why do you get to decide where people can vent their frustrations? If you are so salty about people venting why do you look at the forums? I love how it's ok for you to call people childish and be super rude and then paste the rules in here. Get out of here with that lol.

    There is no standard. That's purely your imagination. I judge prices by how much enjoyment they bring me. Did the 80€ I spent on Fire Emblem Heroes some days ago bring me joy? Actually yes and I even have 80% of that ingame currency left, because I got lucky. Does spending 20€ here bring me any joy? No, that's why I don't do it.


    This is subjective. It's my own personal view on how I spent my money. If you don't like the service, why are you buying something in the first place? Why do you consider it a standard? By which law must that be? Every company that does this tells you about it. Did you read it here? You have the wrong expectations. Life isn't that friendly.


    Instead of wasting your time suggest it as a service for the future so this doesn't happen again. Do you think the majority will be against this? The way you guys complain achieves nothing and the sad thing is you don't seem to realize this. Yeah sure we all like having more money, but if GF doesn't do it there is no point in bashing them. Again, there is no law about this so there are not doing anything wrong. They just don't do what you except them to do.

    Listen at this point everyone knows that GF doesnt care. So it doesnt matter how we complain. There is a point in bashing them..its our human reaction when someone is screwing you over. Its called venting my dude. Also there is an standard in pricing..thats precisely why so many people are angry. You easy look around the gaming market and see their prices are whack. Please dont hit me with that "all asian MMOs are like that" thats bs man.

    Well most games care enough to make sure their players are informed. It's great if you don't care about that...but most people do.

    You can literally go to Rucco Town and do ep1 normal in 1 minute, one shotting everything... you do it 5 times and get the eggs... how long did it take? 5 minutes and the daily is done.


    Can't really complain, can we?

    So why do people keep saying "its easy". Wtf does that have to do with anything. It's a lame event where you do dailies for 5 days to reset one skill. Sounds fun? I know they didn't have to do this amazing event but if they were going to do something why not something cosmetic at least?