Posts by Emyrryl

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It may be a dumb question but where's links to non-steam client download?

At launch there was download link right at the main page, but now i can't find any nor i can find anything on Gameforge main website. Looking at "My Games" tab there's only strange ID and "Game round" field, when i click on Soulworker image. Clicking on "Play now" on SW main page when logged in redirects me to registration window.

Why do i need to register when im already logged in? Why gameforge? Why? Isn't it better to replace that cursed "Play now" button with something like "Download client" instead of giving your users headaches.

P.S: And btw add goddamn "go to website" button to your front page, because when people just want to visit main site they stuck in there and forced to go back and search for ways around(and there's no search results for it so you must just guess and edit url). Is it some kind of front-end conspiracy? Because almost every single landing page that i've seen tend to not have such function and just tells you "psst, if you want go any further you must register. What? I don't care if you already signed up. Just do it.".

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I agree wholeheartedly as to there being a regular download button and a website button.



However if you want to download the standalone client that 'register" dialog login actually doubles as a log in. Log in with your normal information and it will take you to the download page.

That is INCREDIBLY misleading in light of this I'm pasting the link to the download page Once you are there log in with your normal account info

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All I think the community wants at this point is this: If you're going for drops, go for drops. This will be the assumption of your other PUG mates unless stated otherwise.
IF THE PARTY IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU SUICIDE BOMBING THE BOSS: Don't do it. It's not a bannable offense and it's a reasonable exploit that is currently allowed ...for now However if it starts becoming a problem 99% of the time there will be something done about it. And considering it's a monetization opportunity by those who will not be mentioned? I would heavily consider the beneath warning

These unspoken rules of respect need to be upheld by the community otherwise it will end up either patched, or people will start getting banned for grieving. There are unspoken rules that are expected to be followed, failure to do so screws everyone in the end. It's called a "sanity" check for a reason, ask before you do.

Summed up really well. Yes that's all there is to it.

In other words: Don't be a jerk, there is no excuse for that.

So the company has zero accountability? I think everyone understands and agrees with your point on people being jerks. The thing is you know why they are doing it and for the most part its not solely to be aholes. Apparently, the devs are too busy rolling in cashshop money to care.

I'm not saying the company isn't accountable for this, I never once even remotely hinted at that. The rule is this. The bullshit GF is putting through us is there, we know this.

That however does NOT excuse us as a community, we're in this mess together and basic communication of what the party's intentions are before going through a dungeon. This is the problem, Gaming communities have gotten to a point where pugs are hardly able to communicate to one another. But that's a tyraid for a different time. Basic communication is needed between the players. Because it's exactly as you said players are trying to maximize their stamina consumption for exp AND drops. Don't forget that. That is all my point being made was. Even if you're using the party finder, Just say something. That's all most people are asking.

Do things need to change on the devs and publishers end? Dear god, yes it does. Please don't think I feel otherwise.

Also, I should probably mention this though it came off harsh, the point of my explanation was to show you how the people on the other side with the issue are thinking. That is all.

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Doesnt excuse player behavior but when the game is the root cause its hard to blame people.

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I agree wholeheartedly, I don't blame them either.

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All I think the community wants at this point is this: If you're going for drops, go for drops. This will be the assumption of your other PUG mates unless stated otherwise.
IF THE PARTY IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU SUICIDE BOMBING THE BOSS: Don't do it. It's not a bannable offense and it's a reasonable exploit that is currently allowed ...for now However if it starts becoming a problem 99% of the time there will be something done about it. And considering it's a monetization opportunity by those who will not be mentioned? I would heavily consider the beneath warning

These unspoken rules of respect need to be upheld by the community otherwise it will end up either patched, or people will start getting banned for grieving. There are unspoken rules that are expected to be followed, failure to do so screws everyone in the end. It's called a "sanity" check for a reason, ask before you do.

Summed up really well. Yes that's all there is to it.

In other words: Don't be a jerk, there is no excuse for that.

So the company has zero accountability? I think everyone understands and agrees with your point on people being jerks. The thing is you know why they are doing it and for the most part its not solely to be aholes. Apparently, the devs are too busy rolling in cashshop money to care.

I'm not saying the company isn't accountable for this, I never once even remotely hinted at that. The rule is this. The bullshit GF is putting through us is there, we know this.

That however does NOT excuse us as a community, we're in this mess together and basic communication of what the party's intentions are before going through a dungeon. This is the problem, Gaming communities have gotten to a point where pugs are hardly able to communicate to one another. But that's a tyraid for a different time. Basic communication is needed between the players. Because it's exactly as you said players are trying to maximize their stamina consumption for exp AND drops. Don't forget that. That is all my point being made was. Even if you're using the party finder, Just say something. That's all most people are asking.

Do things need to change on the devs and publishers end? Dear god, yes it does. Please don't think I feel otherwise.

Also, I should probably mention this though it came off harsh, the point of my explanation was to show you how the people on the other side with the issue are thinking. That is all.

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All I think the community wants at this point is this: If you're going for drops, go for drops. This will be the assumption of your other PUG mates unless stated otherwise.
IF THE PARTY IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU SUICIDE BOMBING THE BOSS: Don't do it. It's not a bannable offense and it's a reasonable exploit that is currently allowed ...for now However if it starts becoming a problem 99% of the time there will be something done about it. And considering it's a monetization opportunity by those who will not be mentioned? I would heavily consider the beneath warning

These unspoken rules of respect need to be upheld by the community otherwise it will end up either patched, or people will start getting banned for griefing. There are unspoken rules that are expected to be followed, failure to do so screws everyone in the end. It's called a "sanity" check for a reason, ask before you do.

Summed up really well. Yes that's all there is to it.

In other words: Don't be a jerk, there is no excuse for that.

Basically, I don't want to see the players that are either A: too Naive Or B: Too selfish to realize that their actions will end up ruining that for EVERYONE Not just themselves lol.

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Um, how old is Stella supposed to be? In game she says she's 15, the wiki says she's 14, but people treat her like she's.... 8

How old is the obligatory loli ch-.. Nope NU UH NOT TOUCHING THIS ONE NOPE NOOOOO NOPE

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Why I do believe that Erwin is the physical return of Jesus Christ? I mean,he is universal ship with every single person,yet he still getting friendzoned :(((

maybe it’s that weird little thin braid in the back of his hair.

Ey! You dissin the rat tail?

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The main point here is that this is not a bannable thing.

This has been possible on both Korean and Japanese servers ever since apparently, and we have it here as well.

Everyone just complains about EP system, then we have a way to waste less energy that is actually ALLOWED, and people start complaining about it as well?

Honestly, this is making close to zero sense.

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Alright, lemme put this in a scenario for you from the other viewpoints side.
While doing exp conservation runs dying to the boss and leaving to get half your stamina back is infact an effective method.

Now picture you're going there for the other reason, you're trying to farm materials / gold gear from the boss and you're 55 so exp means nothing to you. You get three pugs from the autofinder all.. let's say 54 and are there for an exp run Two of them purposely die using the method the third seems to be in it for the drops.

Here's you're two outcomes.
You push through and complete the dungeon for a reduced chance at loot and drops, Right? You're out... say 20 stamina for the run.
You say "screw it this is a lost cause and a waste of time." Die to the boss with the other pug leave and try again. However you're now out 10 stamina (or energy) with no drops and all that time wasted.

EIther way the player in there looking for drops / materials for crafting gear is now screwed out of half the energy or the FULL energy cost and the price of potions for healing energy potions etc etc. And they get NOTHING of value from the run due to the deaths. They're taking a complete loss.

All I think the community wants at this point is this: If you're going for drops, go for drops. This will be the assumption of your other PUG mates unless stated otherwise.
IF THE PARTY IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU SUICIDE BOMBING THE BOSS: Don't do it. It's not a bannable offense and it's a reasonable exploit that is currently allowed ...for now However if it starts becoming a problem 99% of the time there will be something done about it. And considering it's a monetization opportunity by those who will not be mentioned? I would heavily consider the beneath warning

These unspoken rules of respect need to be upheld by the community otherwise it will end up either patched, or people will start getting banned for griefing. There are unspoken rules that are expected to be followed, failure to do so screws everyone in the end. It's called a "sanity" check for a reason, ask before you do.

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Someone in game has to take control over it or it will get worse. The site he promotes isn't even censored.

When goldspammers can get their site advertised but the words "Game" and "forge" Can't be put together or it triggers the censor.

HMMMMMM!!!!!!

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Jin sucks.

Female version of jin and this game will have more of my money than it knows what to do with.

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Jin sucks.

Jin is the best girlfriend for Erwin,how dare u say such heresy?Wanna Deus Vult ya?

DEUS VULT!!

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Idek if its allowed but pls pm me if anyone is selling silver and gold vip in NA server..

It sort've is allowed, however you'd have MUCH better luck advertising IN the game for your respective server. More eyes will see a megaphone as opposed to the forums. If I'm not mistaken the VIP packs are listable on the MP

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Howdy folks!

How's it going? Reached the cap yet? Still struggling to get out of Rucco Town? Wherever you may be at this point, I have a small question for you all.

How are you liking the story so far?

Weird translations, spelling mistakes and all that stuff aside. Let's talk about the story. Do you read it? Or are you one of those people that just skip everything, reach the cap and then laugh about anyone that thinks the game has a story? Or are you someone that takes their time, reads through all quest dialogues and reads the conversations during a dungeon run?

Any parts of the story you particularly liked? Any favorite characters? Favorite quote? Parts of the story you didn't like? And why?

I will start!(this thread is going to be spoiler-heavy, so I won't bother using spoiler tags. Proceed at your own risk!)

I only started reading the story around the time where you get to the Laboratory and NED Company's evil deeds are shown for the first time. It's probably because of this that I don't really feel much towards what happened with Catherine. I'm a huge sucker for stories revolving around human experiments gone wrong, so this sparked my curiousity.

However, later on, in Grace City, I was giggling over how cute Yop and Rawper are (I can relate to Sora, she's my spirit animal NPC)and then, just a few chapters later, Yop died and I realized how close Medo and he were. So this hit double as hard. The abscence of my favorite NPCs within the town hurts me greatly... But I'm glad this game decided to do it right. In other games, you would still see the NPCs standing around like nothing happened. Kills the mood kinda.

I should've seen the death flags. The fact that Yop couldn't bring himself to apologize properly was a flag, but I ignored it. Ahhh, the sweet pain...

So far, I'm liking the story. It wouldn't win any prizes, but it's definitely one of the better stories I've read in games throughout my ~15 years of MMO experience. I also like that the quest diaolgues are slightly different for each character. I cannot stand Erwin, for example. The fact that he needs to flirt with every female individual and needs to make sure every guy he comes across is aware that he is totally, absolutely not gay, annoys me quite a bit.

Favorite NPC going by looks is probably Victor...err, Luke III. For the girls, it's Lex. Storywise, I like Toru a lot. He's a goofball, despite his age. He looks kinda serious in his uniform and with the beard and all, but he is a child at heart and doesn't fear to let it out. Seriously, I love this dude.

Really stoked as to what's going to await me at Ruin Fortress!

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So admittedly the CONTENT of the story is decent. If you autocorrect the goofy ass translations the story itself is actually pretty damn good.

However I've said it once and I'll say it again, part of the quirkiness is the hilariously bad translations we have for the OBT. I doubtthey're perm but they've made me laugh However the story is DARK and I like it. (The voice acting itself isn't bad.)

Yo Gameforge, I'll translate the game over for free. Just for fun Alright you caught me never do it for free, lemme get a costume of my choice and I'll do it. I'm a con-artist I know. But seriously if they were on board I'm sure there'd be a community translation that would make a lot more sense lol.

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So apparently the New VIP memberships give away these broken bonuses for more than 20$ a month

A Gold membership gives

• +120 max EP
• +20% dzenai
• +20% drop chance
• +5 displayable items on the Market
• No Market fees
• +20% chance of Grutins appearing in districts

and a silver membership gives

• +80 max EP
• +10% dzenai
• +5 displayable items on the Market

Not to mention if you buy them both you get a hidden akasha transmitter

These bonuses are insanely broken for the amount of money you spend. Nice knowing you Soulworker but this is one of the most pay2win things you could have added to the game.

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Not... one of those would allow you to beat another player in PvP.

Why WOULDN'T a free game have VIP packs.. They have to pay for server upkeep somehow..

Every f2p game has some form of premium service... Please, this might seem like it's p2w but I'll raise the drawing the line argument again.

IF this is where you draw your line for pay to win, simply do not play. These bonuses are mild compared to that of the following

Any Nexon game (See reforges, magic cubes or any of their gacha hell items that give STATS on gear. (We're talking +35% skill damage on some cases and as much as 12x damage in others)
Any Aeria game
(Going to use aura kingdom for an example: "Give us $300 bucks and get this exclusive Eidolon that no one else has")
NCwest
(Roll this luna chest to get a shot at the best PvP gear in the game.)

In this case, a simple premium service that gives 30% more DZ (total) Really... doesn't bother me at all. WIth two characters (Armor is transferrable through the warehouse) I've only had to buy weapons for my 10-32 grind thusfar and I'm in NO shortage of DZ (Sitting on 1.8m with +4 gear for current level and previous level armor sets. then +4 respective weapons)

20% more Drops? They're still common enough (even without the 20% bonus) Where I'll get at least 1 orange every 1-2 runs. (which is fucking mellow compared to some of the orange drops in say.. closers or Elsword in comparison) Grutin spawns? Again DZ isn't really a problem for me and I still see one every 2-3 runs.

There's no Inherent (combat) Stat bonuses.
There are no bonuses to EXP gained.
Stamina is LAUGHABLY easy to restore as it is.
Market fee? 9% is pretty lax compared to the 35% I'm used to (Seriously eat a fat one cuckao) Also I've yet to run into an issue where I have more items to list than I have registerable slots on the marketplace. (Word of advice from the wise, don't sell your gear drops, dismantle them, you get more DZ from the mats if you're that desperate for money. )

Oh, and if you feel these are GAMEBREAKING changes, they can be purchased with DZ To reap the rewards on?

These are some mellow bonuses, friend, I wouldn't be spouting off the mouth about P2W yet. Gameforge has PLEEEENTY of time to screw that one up before launch, but this is not one of those times. Have they shot themselves in the foot yet? No, However they do have a fully loaded gun aimed at their feet.

But from what I've gathered most of the top players on the Candus server. They're well above everyone else and they didn't drop a dime on the game. The cashpocolypse hasn't hit yet. .....yet

You know, It's been a long time since I've seen a "The dps are retarded" Esc thread in action MMOs.

Feels good seeing it again, the laughs this gave me. For more questions about healing in MMOs may I recommend. This old gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DxS7eT_ky4

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A lot of games have the option to "try on" or "preview" gear in the cash shop and just from a regular vendor.

I honestly love this type of feature in mmorpgs and I feel like Soulworker is lacking this option, not that its a big deal or anything. Its mainly just to plan out outfits you want to try out, more of a convenience so you don't have to waste all your materials and money on something that looks worse than you were thinking it was going to be.

What is everyone's opinion on this? I know there was a few posts on just the preview for the cash shop (which would be nice), but i'd love to have it on every item not just the cash shop. (different versions of the game have different shops, and for some reason we are stuck with the worst one.)

Heres an example of the cash shop we have in NA and EN:

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Heres an example of the cash shop they have in Korea (theres a comment on this post further down with a video on it):

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Heres an example of the Japanese version:

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Heres the cash shop TERA has ingame (note that tera is also a steam game and doesn't have to go through a steam overlay):

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In conclusion, I would love if NA and EN servers had the types of cash shops Japan or Korea has. And by giving the option to preview fashion before any purchase will make more people buy cash shop items, which means a better income for Gameforge. (thanks Nitros, Etsuya, Nyx and Kazumi for giving me ideas on how to make this thread better ^^)

Also any info/ideas or comments related to this would be greatly appreciated, thanks if you read all that xD.

So my questions are,

1. Where is our ingame cash shop?

2. Why does the cash shop NEED to be in steam overlay and how come we can't preview ANY fashion from the cash shop or any blueprints?

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btw. the japanese cashshop is the same as the kr cashshop now...was on it yesterday and almost cried when i saw it ;p

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In time, all in due time

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I think they will, there’s so much that probably still needs to make its appearance on the shop.. No need to push it this much.

Yeah you're probably right. I was just looking into SWHQ's website and one of the recent updates apparently added 41 colors to the shop. I'm going to just stop worrying now rofl.

Also another thing I wanted to mention to reassure you is that that Ice+ person mentioned modifying the client to put the white hair colour, which means that it probably already exists on another version of the game.

There's hope!

Much love

It doesn't exist but you can edit the color file in GIMP or other program and change the color to whatever you want.

So for example you can buy a pink hair color from gameforge (so they get some money), then edit the pink hair color .dds file in GIMP and make it white. So when you wear the pink hair, it will be white for you (other people will still see it as pink).

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Oh, RIP my dreams and hopes. Thanks for explaining though!

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I mean.. that's about as simple of a fix for it as they come though. Against the ToS but easy to do,.

however from what I'm seeing, this really shouldn't be an issue, not even slightly.

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I can teach you how to edit game file to get pure titanium white color for your hair.

As you know Ice+ according to our T&C,

modifications of the client are not allowed.

Just saying.. dont spam the thread.

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Dear diary, I have seen a unicorn today. sooo, arp, Any idea if they're adding a true white, snow white, platinum, or form of white hair to the shop for lady haru?

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I think they will, there’s so much that probably still needs to make its appearance on the shop.. No need to push it this much.

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Yeah you're probably right. I was just looking into SWHQ's website and one of the recent updates apparently added 41 colors to the shop. I'm going to just stop worrying now rofl.

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I can teach you how to edit game file to get pure titanium white color for your hair.

As you know Ice+ according to our T&C,

modifications of the client are not allowed.

Just saying.. dont spam the thread.

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Dear diary, I have seen a unicorn today. sooo, arp, Any idea if they're adding a true white, snow white, platinum, or form of white hair to the shop for lady haru?

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I can teach you how to edit game file to get pure titanium white color for your hair.

I am so far on board with this idea is just.. please teach me the ways lord Ice PLEASE!!

You know? I'm surprised at how much people are on board with this idea. I'm praying.

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it would be nice if Gameforge actually listen to this.. but let me ask you, do you really think they will do that? 99.9% is no..

Given their response to the requests to get the previews added to the cash shop It's hopeful. However if we're going to continue this conversation

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The Stamina Issue (merged topics)

I finally finished that post we were talking about yesterday regarding the energy. One of the admins said it was best to post in the merged thread

^^^^^^^

Move it to this post as Zodai has gone into MUCH greater detail than I have the time to do.