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Finally :D! It wasn't so hard to admit that you were wrong, right :)?

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Instead of trying to spread pain and suffering and trying to put others down, spread information and actually hold a discussion and be helpful.

In this thread no one was spreading pain nor suffering and in fact we were spreading information so I'm not sure what you are referring to.

If my comment wasnt directed towards you, Im pretty sure you have the ability to catch the clue instead of trying to catch these hands. Maybe look back at everything I wrote instead of picking the things you want to read. All I said, the longer I look back at these posts the more I wonder why WHATS the point. I dont care to the extent, all I was some negativity so I was just trying to figure out where the common sense is. However, like I told home boy coming at my neck. Im going to assume there is a language barrier of some sort and leave it at that. If I have tilted you or made you upset you are free to file a complaint / report to your local moderator. Just as I remove myself and thought the discussion involving me was over I got included again. Soooo that being said, Anyone that ELSE that wants to include me in something thats already been fixed on here I wont reply. Ill be on other posts where there will be less misunderstandings. Chiryuu you have a blessed day~

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The negativity was from you. Have a blessed day ...

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Well not much to say anymore, all i am saying at the end is there is overhead cost for company hiring people and so on and a lot other factor that may changes the SC cost. But if they wanna say JP server is better go ahead, i already stated my point that simply no shared bank in JP server itself already a turn off for me. But again like all my post, those are my opinion, everyone has their own opinion and what they like. They like cheap SC, then go ahead and go to JP server. If they want GF to change the price of SC, then just ask GF to change it, which i doubt they will change it. Due to overhead cost and other cost they need for their company to make profit, a reasonable price is needed for our server.

Riku : Except that that's not what you were arguing with me about. You were arguing that Japan's standard of living was the reason for the price discrepancy because they "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming". Then when I provided evidence on how wrong you are, you ignore all the evidence by claiming you know someone who told you Japan is poor as if that was some sort of proper counter argument.

6ww : I'm not sure who's argument you thought got debunked, but if you thought it was me then you better go reread the thread. Also, nobody is saying "everybody" is wrong. We're saying Riku is wrong (about Japan being poor and unable to afford extra money for gaming as the reason for the cheap prices).

There is a reason why I kept it in a general sense, rather than going for a specific individuals. Again I was just pointing out the negativity and why its becoming violent. Instead of trying to spread pain and suffering and trying to put others down, spread information and actually hold a discussion and be helpful. I never said you got debunked, again I was just speaking or in a literal sense (Typing) in general. You are not a tree, You are not a cloud, you are also not a umbrella. So I dont understand why you are throwing shade AT me, for just trying to spread common sense or trying to figure out just WHY. Soooo maybe YOU should Reread instead of re-sponding in a negative tone AT me. You have a blessed day, because Im sure as hell going to enjoy mine.

How was I spreading pain and suffering, lol. Correcting someone for spreading false info means I'm spreading pain and suffering? Are you his mom or his alter ego? If you're this sensitive, then maybe the forum is not for you.

As for the negativity, YOU are the one calling me out. Not the other way around. My arguments until you posted was related to the topic of this thread. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info. YOU on the other hand is spreading all the negativity with trying to villainize me as spreading pain and suffering. So YOU are the one who is going totally off-topic and trying to turn an on-topic argument into a personal attack.

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No one was calling you out to begin with, Unless you are a hive-mind of some sort and you are a majority with one consciousness then I would understand why you are a bit tilted. But at this point, I'm pretty sure there is a language barrier or a slang barrier of some sorts, because apparently we didn't learn to understand to read things and assume it wasn't directed towards themselves. But again, if you want to take this LITERALLY to fit your own narrative, fine, because at the end of the day, I'm chilling with my umbrella drink crisping my skin in the sun. If you want the spotlight I might as well give it to you since no one else wanted to donate.

Advice: Reread my first post and tell me that I was coming for you, it wasn't off topic I was asking what was the point of this.

Anyways you do you girl, before I get in trouble with mods or something I'm going to let you flip tables with others. Like I said, you have a blessed day.

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In your reply to me, you LITERALLY said : "Instead of trying to spread pain and suffering and trying to put others down, spread information and actually hold a discussion and be helpful."

(Saying "keeping it in a general sense" when you're directly replying to me does not get you off the hook.)

Like I said, my arguments until you posted was related to the topic of this thread. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info. YOU on the other hand is spreading all the negativity with trying to villainize me as spreading pain and suffering. So YOU are the one who is going totally off-topic and trying to turn an on-topic argument into a personal attack.

Keeping it in a general sense, that was the dumbest off-topic argument ever. See what I did there?

Regarding your first post, you asked what was the point of this and I already told you what the point was.

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It mattered because someone tried to imply that the reason for the price difference between JP and EU/NA is because Japan is a poor country and hence the lower prices, which is not true. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info.

I wasnt talking about the point to begin with. Im talking about the post after the first 10 that got to the point and instead of being constructive and getting to the point, its becoming quite, questionable in the direction of this post. Unless the dyslexia is screwing me over (Which it probably is) Im pretty sure this got debunked already so I dont see why everything is getting more violent and everyone is "Wrong" because they used to live there/ or dont know but they google up digits or had a friend that lived there. I could be wrong but thats what I see. Like you saw me asking what is the point of this post, when I actual meant whats the point of the negativity and brutal responses from the more "later posts" than the beginning.

Well not much to say anymore, all i am saying at the end is there is overhead cost for company hiring people and so on and a lot other factor that may changes the SC cost. But if they wanna say JP server is better go ahead, i already stated my point that simply no shared bank in JP server itself already a turn off for me. But again like all my post, those are my opinion, everyone has their own opinion and what they like. They like cheap SC, then go ahead and go to JP server. If they want GF to change the price of SC, then just ask GF to change it, which i doubt they will change it. Due to overhead cost and other cost they need for their company to make profit, a reasonable price is needed for our server.

Riku : Except that that's not what you were arguing with me about. You were arguing that Japan's standard of living was the reason for the price discrepancy because they "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming". Then when I provided evidence on how wrong you are, you ignore all the evidence by claiming you know someone who told you Japan is poor as if that was some sort of proper counter argument.

6ww : I'm not sure who's argument you thought got debunked, but if you thought it was me then you better go reread the thread. Also, nobody is saying "everybody" is wrong. We're saying Riku is wrong (about Japan being poor and unable to afford extra money for gaming as the reason for the cheap prices).

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Well I read what you said, and understand your perspective and i am telling you what lead me to believe what i believe. And that's my perspective, I didn't ignored ur evidence, i simply take it in and look at ur perspective and it make sense too. Just because i didn't came out and say, Critic you are almighty you are right, doesn't mean i disagree with u. From beginning of the post and now, just discuss to see each other perspective. Never once i said you are wrong, all my comment is to only explain what lead to believe what i believe from my experienced. If you don't want to understand my perspective on why i see thing the way it is, then it's fine. If the discussion you want is doesnt give a shit about other perspective, all they have to do is say you are right, then okay i am not goin to go further discussion anymore. And at the end, number from online is on thing, and if we never live in JP we will never know the life there, we can read all stuff on online all we want, but it is not always the same as how online said it is.

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There's no perspective here to consider. We are talking about facts. Your perspective doesn't change facts. It Is fact that Japan is not poor and is comparable to the west in wealth. Your trying to justify the price discrepancy between JP and NA/EU because you say they're poor and "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming" is simply wrong irrespective of your perspective. Just because you know someone from Japan who thinks otherwise does not change that fact. That would be like saying I know someone from the US who can't afford the cash shop, therefore the US is poor and should have lower prices than EU. We're talking about countries, not individuals or even neighborhoods.

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It mattered because someone tried to imply that the reason for the price difference between JP and EU/NA is because Japan is a poor country and hence the lower prices, which is not true. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info.

I wasnt talking about the point to begin with. Im talking about the post after the first 10 that got to the point and instead of being constructive and getting to the point, its becoming quite, questionable in the direction of this post. Unless the dyslexia is screwing me over (Which it probably is) Im pretty sure this got debunked already so I dont see why everything is getting more violent and everyone is "Wrong" because they used to live there/ or dont know but they google up digits or had a friend that lived there. I could be wrong but thats what I see. Like you saw me asking what is the point of this post, when I actual meant whats the point of the negativity and brutal responses from the more "later posts" than the beginning.

Well not much to say anymore, all i am saying at the end is there is overhead cost for company hiring people and so on and a lot other factor that may changes the SC cost. But if they wanna say JP server is better go ahead, i already stated my point that simply no shared bank in JP server itself already a turn off for me. But again like all my post, those are my opinion, everyone has their own opinion and what they like. They like cheap SC, then go ahead and go to JP server. If they want GF to change the price of SC, then just ask GF to change it, which i doubt they will change it. Due to overhead cost and other cost they need for their company to make profit, a reasonable price is needed for our server.

Riku : Except that that's not what you were arguing with me about. You were arguing that Japan's standard of living was the reason for the price discrepancy because they "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming". Then when I provided evidence on how wrong you are, you ignore all the evidence by claiming you know someone who told you Japan is poor as if that was some sort of proper counter argument.

6ww : I'm not sure who's argument you thought got debunked, but if you thought it was me then you better go reread the thread. Also, nobody is saying "everybody" is wrong. We're saying Riku is wrong (about Japan being poor and unable to afford extra money for gaming as the reason for the cheap prices).

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There is a reason why I kept it in a general sense, rather than going for a specific individuals. Again I was just pointing out the negativity and why its becoming violent. Instead of trying to spread pain and suffering and trying to put others down, spread information and actually hold a discussion and be helpful. I never said you got debunked, again I was just speaking or in a literal sense (Typing) in general. You are not a tree, You are not a cloud, you are also not a umbrella. So I dont understand why you are throwing shade AT me, for just trying to spread common sense or trying to figure out just WHY. Soooo maybe YOU should Reread instead of re-sponding in a negative tone AT me. You have a blessed day, because Im sure as hell going to enjoy mine.

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How was I spreading pain and suffering, lol. Correcting someone for spreading false info means I'm spreading pain and suffering? Are you his mom or his alter ego? If you're this sensitive, then maybe the forum is not for you.

As for the negativity, YOU are the one calling me out. Not the other way around. My arguments until you posted was related to the topic of this thread. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info. YOU on the other hand is spreading all the negativity with trying to villainize me as spreading pain and suffering. So YOU are the one who is going totally off-topic and trying to turn an on-topic argument into a personal attack.

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It didn't reset for me on NA server. Did it reset for any of the EU servers?

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As more as I see more responses to this the more I ask myself. "Why does this matter again?" Like everyone is going at each others necks about which place is more broke than the other. Dont like something? Form a petition to change it. or complain about something till it gets changed, like the hair and SC prices. If it doesnt work or its not an idea with common sense. either you play the game as is, or leave. Battling each other over something that doesnt really effect a majority of us players way of living is pointless. Zzz.

It mattered because someone tried to imply that the reason for the price difference between JP and EU/NA is because Japan is a poor country and hence the lower prices, which is not true. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info.

I wasnt talking about the point to begin with. Im talking about the post after the first 10 that got to the point and instead of being constructive and getting to the point, its becoming quite, questionable in the direction of this post. Unless the dyslexia is screwing me over (Which it probably is) Im pretty sure this got debunked already so I dont see why everything is getting more violent and everyone is "Wrong" because they used to live there/ or dont know but they google up digits or had a friend that lived there. I could be wrong but thats what I see. Like you saw me asking what is the point of this post, when I actual meant whats the point of the negativity and brutal responses from the more "later posts" than the beginning.

Well not much to say anymore, all i am saying at the end is there is overhead cost for company hiring people and so on and a lot other factor that may changes the SC cost. But if they wanna say JP server is better go ahead, i already stated my point that simply no shared bank in JP server itself already a turn off for me. But again like all my post, those are my opinion, everyone has their own opinion and what they like. They like cheap SC, then go ahead and go to JP server. If they want GF to change the price of SC, then just ask GF to change it, which i doubt they will change it. Due to overhead cost and other cost they need for their company to make profit, a reasonable price is needed for our server.

Riku : Except that that's not what you were arguing with me about. You were arguing that Japan's standard of living was the reason for the price discrepancy because they "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming". Then when I provided evidence on how wrong you are, you ignore all the evidence by claiming you know someone who told you Japan is poor as if that was some sort of proper counter argument.

6ww : I'm not sure who's argument you thought got debunked, but if you thought it was me then you better go reread the thread. Also, nobody is saying "everybody" is wrong. We're saying Riku is wrong (about Japan being poor and unable to afford extra money for gaming as the reason for the cheap prices).

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As more as I see more responses to this the more I ask myself. "Why does this matter again?" Like everyone is going at each others necks about which place is more broke than the other. Dont like something? Form a petition to change it. or complain about something till it gets changed, like the hair and SC prices. If it doesnt work or its not an idea with common sense. either you play the game as is, or leave. Battling each other over something that doesnt really effect a majority of us players way of living is pointless. Zzz.

It mattered because someone tried to imply that the reason for the price difference between JP and EU/NA is because Japan is a poor country and hence the lower prices, which is not true. Since this is a thread about JP vs GameForge and someone tries to justify one of those differences based on wrong info, I think it's appropriate to correct that info.

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Oohh and premium price, try live in JP and see their standard of living, then you will know why it's so cheap. =D

They have much better standard of living nad much higher wages than you think.

I don't know where you are living but tbh you are pretty ignorant.

Well i am saying only people in JP will know, i used to lived in Malaysia, Taiwan, and then got friends that came from Korean. JP I only met a few, so like i said only ppl that live there will know. And from Japanese's family that came live in my homestay told me about the life in JP but how was it i have no idea since i never had any real time experience living there and working there.

That's like saying you knew someone from the US who lived below the proverty line tell you how poor he was and therefore the US is a poor country with a low standard of living. Bottomline, you were wrong about Japan.

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that's why i said try live in JP and you will know, didn't I said that? whether it's cheap or not, will know once u live there. So if that is consider as ignorant, then I can't say much. And if people can come to US to study, most of them is not going to be in poverty in my opinion. Just like i said, i don't claim what i said it's 100% fact, i just state my opinion on how i look at it from my perspective and from the experience and knowledge i have living in other country before. It may not apply the same as JP but no body will truly know until they actually live and experience at JP. So you are telling me that you actually live in JP and know the life there?

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You don't need to live in a country to know that it's not poor. In much the same way you don't need to live in the US to know that it's not poor. There may be poor people in the country and even neighborhoods that are poor, but it doesn't mean the country itself is poor.

I've given you plenty of sources to show you how wrong you are about Japan. Telling me you know someone who tells you otherwise is not a good counter-argument. That person can be as clueless as you.

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Oohh and premium price, try live in JP and see their standard of living, then you will know why it's so cheap. =D

They have much better standard of living nad much higher wages than you think.

I don't know where you are living but tbh you are pretty ignorant.

Well i am saying only people in JP will know, i used to lived in Malaysia, Taiwan, and then got friends that came from Korean. JP I only met a few, so like i said only ppl that live there will know. And from Japanese's family that came live in my homestay told me about the life in JP but how was it i have no idea since i never had any real time experience living there and working there.

That's like saying you knew someone from the US who lived below the proverty line tell you how poor he was and therefore the US is a poor country with a low standard of living. Bottomline, you were wrong about Japan.

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isn't that is exactly my point? bcoz their standard of living is higher, their cash shop is lower so people can buy stuff since they dont have that much extra money to afford gaming. Just like what Gamforge do, but GF do it differently. The poorer or the harder the standard of living, the more Soulcash they will get per top up. That's why even after they changes, US 100 dollars only get 17k Soulcash while Europe got 20k soulcash. Same concept.

That makes no sense. The numbers listed is adjusted to their purchasing power (PPP), They have a high standard of living comparable to the west. Standard of living generally refers to the level of wealth and comfort in a region. Having a high standard of living means they live at a high level of wealth and comfort.

Saying that a country that is wealthy "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming" makes no sense. Japan is somewhat smack in the middle of the wealth curve compared to countries in the west (NA/EU). They have a high standard of living that is comparable to the west.

well you were right, high standard of living generally refers to the level of wealth and comfort in a region. Having a high standard of living means they live at a high level of wealth and comfort. But in average overall their job got pay is a lot lower than US or EU. EU i can't be sure, but coming from asia country and hanging out with variety of asian i met. The standard of living there is not as good as the number or website said it is. Well i can't say much about the real society there unless i work there, all i heard is from ppl that immigrant from JP and so on.

There are poor countries in Asia, but Japan is not one of them. Japan is somewhat smack in the middle of the wealth curve compared to countries in the west (NA/EU). They have a high standard of living that is comparable to the west.

Refer to the link I posted before showing average wages :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…countries_by_average_wage

They are ranked 19th on this list, just slightly below France, UK, Sweden and Finland (ranked 14, 15, 16 and 17) and slightly ahead of Spain and Italy (20 and 21). They are well ahead of poorer EU countries like Poland, Greece, Portugal and Hungary.

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Yes they have good standard of living, but their cost of living is pretty damn high.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of…g/rankings_by_country.jsp

Because their cost of living is so high that they barely have any left over amount of money to spend on hobby and entertainment. Yes Japan is is wealthy and good place to live thats why their standard of living is pretty high up there too.

So is some of the Europe country has such a high cost of living, that's why GF give EU so much more SC compare to NA, which has lower cost of living and have a lot more money to spend overall.

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The numbers listed are PPP adjusted (Purchasing Power Parity) so costs are already taken into account.

NA originally paid more due to an error which they have since corrected. They originally stated that differences in prices should only be due to conversion rates (which was not the case) and then later posted new rates for NA to be more consistent with EU :

Premium Currency Adjustment in the USA and Canada

Also, your own link shows Japan has a similar cost of living index to France and Sweden, and is also cheaper than Luxembourg. So what's the point?

Trying to use a wealth and purchasing power argument to justify the difference in pricing is pointless since by that argument, Poland and Greece should have much lower prices than JP. The only real reason for the differences between JP and NA/EU prices is that they are run by 2 different publishers and GF wants to charge more while JP is satisfied with charging less.

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Oohh and premium price, try live in JP and see their standard of living, then you will know why it's so cheap. =D

Standard of living is very high in Japan.

This link shows average wages :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…countries_by_average_wage

Japan is ranked 19th on this list, just slightly below France, UK, Sweden and Finland (ranked 14, 15, 16 and 17) and slightly ahead of Spain and Italy (20 and 21). It is well ahead of poorer EU countries like Poland, Greece, Portugal and Hungary.

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isn't that is exactly my point? bcoz their standard of living is higher, their cash shop is lower so people can buy stuff since they dont have that much extra money to afford gaming. Just like what Gamforge do, but GF do it differently. The poorer or the harder the standard of living, the more Soulcash they will get per top up. That's why even after they changes, US 100 dollars only get 17k Soulcash while Europe got 20k soulcash. Same concept.

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That makes no sense. The numbers listed is adjusted to their purchasing power (PPP), They have a high standard of living comparable to the west. Standard of living generally refers to the level of wealth and comfort in a region. Having a high standard of living means they live at a high level of wealth and comfort.

Saying that a country that is wealthy "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming" makes no sense. Japan is somewhat smack in the middle of the wealth curve compared to countries in the west (NA/EU). They have a high standard of living that is comparable to the west.

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well you were right, high standard of living generally refers to the level of wealth and comfort in a region. Having a high standard of living means they live at a high level of wealth and comfort. But in average overall their job got pay is a lot lower than US or EU. EU i can't be sure, but coming from asia country and hanging out with variety of asian i met. The standard of living there is not as good as the number or website said it is. Well i can't say much about the real society there unless i work there, all i heard is from ppl that immigrant from JP and so on.

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There are poor countries in Asia, but Japan is not one of them. Japan is somewhat smack in the middle of the wealth curve compared to countries in the west (NA/EU). They have a high standard of living that is comparable to the west.

Refer to the link I posted before showing average wages :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…countries_by_average_wage

They are ranked 19th on this list, just slightly below France, UK, Sweden and Finland (ranked 14, 15, 16 and 17) and slightly ahead of Spain and Italy (20 and 21). They are well ahead of poorer EU countries like Poland, Greece, Portugal and Hungary.

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Oohh and premium price, try live in JP and see their standard of living, then you will know why it's so cheap. =D

Standard of living is very high in Japan.

This link shows average wages :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…countries_by_average_wage

Japan is ranked 19th on this list, just slightly below France, UK, Sweden and Finland (ranked 14, 15, 16 and 17) and slightly ahead of Spain and Italy (20 and 21). It is well ahead of poorer EU countries like Poland, Greece, Portugal and Hungary.

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isn't that is exactly my point? bcoz their standard of living is higher, their cash shop is lower so people can buy stuff since they dont have that much extra money to afford gaming. Just like what Gamforge do, but GF do it differently. The poorer or the harder the standard of living, the more Soulcash they will get per top up. That's why even after they changes, US 100 dollars only get 17k Soulcash while Europe got 20k soulcash. Same concept.

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That makes no sense. The numbers listed is adjusted to their purchasing power (PPP), They have a high standard of living comparable to the west. Standard of living generally refers to the level of wealth and comfort in a region. Having a high standard of living means they live at a high level of wealth and comfort.

Saying that a country that is wealthy "dont have that much extra money to afford gaming" makes no sense. Japan is somewhat smack in the middle of the wealth curve compared to countries in the west (NA/EU). They have a high standard of living that is comparable to the west.

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Oohh and premium price, try live in JP and see their standard of living, then you will know why it's so cheap. =D

Standard of living is very high in Japan.

This link shows average wages :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…countries_by_average_wage

Japan is ranked 19th on this list, just slightly below France, UK, Sweden and Finland (ranked 14, 15, 16 and 17) and slightly ahead of Spain and Italy (20 and 21). It is well ahead of poorer EU countries like Poland, Greece, Portugal and Hungary.

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Let me show you what you sound like. Keep in mind im a builder irl. "i want a beautiful house" me " your in the right place. what would you like it to look like? "ohh it will be a beautiful" right.....ummm which direction would you like it to face, what material, you know the basics sir. You "ohhh the most beautiful house has to face the most beautiful direction, and uses the most beautiful material. were going to build a wall a big beautiful wall. oops i mean house. My friends are going to be there, your friends are going to be there. Its going to be amazingly beautiful"......

Hope ya got what i did there. Give ideas not just desires. Desires are nothing without any effort to make them a reality.

And you sound like someone who never reads before replying. I even BOLDED it for you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events.

Now I'll bold some more for you ...

I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

They don't need or care about your ideas. If you think they'll listen to your ideas, then go for it. But I'm not delusional like you, so I'm not gonna waste my time.

For now, I'll leave you with just that to think over and digest. Don't want to overload you.

The result of this thread is that GameForge will speak with the devs to add more events. That to me is a win.

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Its not just your win lol we all wanted events o.O. and they took ideas from people here that posted what they though. You know ideas not just wants. Im looking forward to it. This was not just an "i want this" type of thing. because as any adult no you just tell the kids "sorry you have to eat dinner first or ohh not right not its to late" the cake (new event) is the result of people actually taking the time to use brain power and give suggestions.

Either way i hope you enjoy it and i look forward to our victory! just like irl those who actually create things and ideas make more than those that just hope something happen. Hell i hope we in a party together since its going to take 50 people. lol :-p

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I never said it was MY win. I said "The result of this thread is that GameForge will speak with the devs to add more events. That to me is a win"

"This thread" refers to the whole thread. Again, you don't really read before replying.

It doesn't take much brains to come up with your ideas. It's just that some of us like to concentrate our efforts on things that can yield results. In my case, I chose to concentrate on just getting them to add more regular events.

The actual quality of the events are dependent on how much resources they're wiling to invest, not from a lack of ideas. They know how to do their jobs better than you.

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for once your right. i did miss read my bad. However i still stand by what i said. You offered nothing. Just a want. Its not about telling a person how to do a job. Its about telling them what you think will make it better. Look lets use common sense. Most people are not game developers yet in many mmos the games ask for ideas. Your taking this to some where that makes no sense. Simply put. Its easier to work off of an idea then just someone wanting something.

As i said eariler a "house, a big beautiful house" your mind is still there. no concept of "ohh let me help with some positive ideas" nope. But ehh oh well. Still looking forward to the even. That all people desired ohh no that gave ideas about :-p. okay heres something fun for you to do. which is easier to desire to be worth millions or to create it? Enough said. good day to you sir.

ps. was not really shooting shots at you untill you said something about me not reading lol And your response is the same as most people "im not telling them how to do their jobs. they know how." to me that is such a cop out and saying you have no clue or any ideas that could help the situation. Its a fantasy game man use ya imagination :-p lol

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What do you mean I offer nothing? This thread was about the lack of events and I presented reasons as to why they should add events. And the result of this thread is that GameForge will now speak with the devs to add more events. This to me is a win. And I at least tried to help contribute to a common cause that resulted in this win.

You on the otherhand did nothing but argue without reading and wasting my time. You have zero contribution to this win. Your "ïdeas" are nothing special, get over yourself. GameForge did not say they're gonna tell the devs to use your "ïdeas" to do their events. Your ideas did nothing. If anything, your posts almost derailed this thread because of your crazy arguments with me.

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In the post that you has said previously 30min to 1hr is what i was getting at. Thats not helping anything. Also i said suggest things. Not just talk about. Give some ideas how. Thats just like they have an even going now. Nothing comes from just talking about.

I just explained that to you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events. I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

What I wanted to achieve was to get events and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted. So what do you mean nothing comes from just talking when I actually got what I wanted???

As for the 30 min to 1 hr thing, I already said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

The idea is to get people logging in daily to do something. Then they may do something else with others (or solo) once they are already in the game. Its all about trying to retain active playerbase.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.) More players generally means more money. Nobody playing means no money.

Did you reply without reading anything I wrote?

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Let me show you what you sound like. Keep in mind im a builder irl. "i want a beautiful house" me " your in the right place. what would you like it to look like? "ohh it will be a beautiful" right.....ummm which direction would you like it to face, what material, you know the basics sir. You "ohhh the most beautiful house has to face the most beautiful direction, and uses the most beautiful material. were going to build a wall a big beautiful wall. oops i mean house. My friends are going to be there, your friends are going to be there. Its going to be amazingly beautiful"......

Hope ya got what i did there. Give ideas not just desires. Desires are nothing without any effort to make them a reality.

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And you sound like someone who never reads before replying. I even BOLDED it for you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events.

Now I'll bold some more for you ...

I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

They don't need or care about your ideas. If you think they'll listen to your ideas, then go for it. But I'm not delusional like you, so I'm not gonna waste my time.

For now, I'll leave you with just that to think over and digest. Don't want to overload you.

The result of this thread is that GameForge will speak with the devs to add more events. That to me is a win.

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Its not just your win lol we all wanted events o.O. and they took ideas from people here that posted what they though. You know ideas not just wants. Im looking forward to it. This was not just an "i want this" type of thing. because as any adult no you just tell the kids "sorry you have to eat dinner first or ohh not right not its to late" the cake (new event) is the result of people actually taking the time to use brain power and give suggestions.

Either way i hope you enjoy it and i look forward to our victory! just like irl those who actually create things and ideas make more than those that just hope something happen. Hell i hope we in a party together since its going to take 50 people. lol :-p

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I never said it was MY win. I said "The result of this thread is that GameForge will speak with the devs to add more events. That to me is a win"

"This thread" refers to the whole thread. Again, you don't really read before replying.

It doesn't take much brains to come up with your ideas. It's just that some of us like to concentrate our efforts on things that can yield results. In my case, I chose to concentrate on just getting them to add more regular events.

The actual quality of the events are dependent on how much resources they're wiling to invest, not from a lack of ideas. They know how to do their jobs better than you.

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Well your right about leaning to quote a post properly. Sorry i only do this when at work so...yea not probably going to happen haha. But anyways, They do have login rewards currently as you should know. And i do think your right in part of what your saying. However I dont think it will make any difference. Because you unlike my first post on this are just saying you want something and not how to achieve it.

Actually, I wanted them to add regular events in this game and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted.

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And yes your right most mmos do have monthly events. However your wrong in thinking 30 min or 1 hr will make any diff. at all to people spending money.

That was a reply to you when you said earlier that events is bad and will cause people to play 24/7. My reply was that events do not require 24/7 and that it can require as little as 30 mins to an hour a day (which was around how long it took to do the previous event).

Also, in the very post you quoted, I said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.)

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In the post that you has said previously 30min to 1hr is what i was getting at. Thats not helping anything. Also i said suggest things. Not just talk about. Give some ideas how. Thats just like they have an even going now. Nothing comes from just talking about.

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I just explained that to you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events. I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

What I wanted to achieve was to get events and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted. So what do you mean nothing comes from just talking when I actually got what I wanted???

As for the 30 min to 1 hr thing, I already said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

The idea is to get people logging in daily to do something. Then they may do something else with others (or solo) once they are already in the game. Its all about trying to retain active playerbase.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.) More players generally means more money. Nobody playing means no money.

Did you reply without reading anything I wrote?

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Let me show you what you sound like. Keep in mind im a builder irl. "i want a beautiful house" me " your in the right place. what would you like it to look like? "ohh it will be a beautiful" right.....ummm which direction would you like it to face, what material, you know the basics sir. You "ohhh the most beautiful house has to face the most beautiful direction, and uses the most beautiful material. were going to build a wall a big beautiful wall. oops i mean house. My friends are going to be there, your friends are going to be there. Its going to be amazingly beautiful"......

Hope ya got what i did there. Give ideas not just desires. Desires are nothing without any effort to make them a reality.

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And you sound like someone who never reads before replying. I even BOLDED it for you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events.

Now I'll bold some more for you ...

I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

They don't need or care about your ideas. If you think they'll listen to your ideas, then go for it. But I'm not delusional, so I'm not gonna waste my time.

For now, I'll leave you with just that to think over and digest.

The result of this thread is that GameForge will speak with the devs to add more events. That to me is a win in reality.

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Well your right about leaning to quote a post properly. Sorry i only do this when at work so...yea not probably going to happen haha. But anyways, They do have login rewards currently as you should know. And i do think your right in part of what your saying. However I dont think it will make any difference. Because you unlike my first post on this are just saying you want something and not how to achieve it.

Actually, I wanted them to add regular events in this game and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted.

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And yes your right most mmos do have monthly events. However your wrong in thinking 30 min or 1 hr will make any diff. at all to people spending money.

That was a reply to you when you said earlier that events is bad and will cause people to play 24/7. My reply was that events do not require 24/7 and that it can require as little as 30 mins to an hour a day (which was around how long it took to do the previous event).

Also, in the very post you quoted, I said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.)

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In the post that you has said previously 30min to 1hr is what i was getting at. Thats not helping anything. Also i said suggest things. Not just talk about. Give some ideas how. Thats just like they have an even going now. Nothing comes from just talking about.

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I just explained that to you.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events. I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

What I wanted to achieve was to get events and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted. So what do you mean nothing comes from just talking when I actually got what I wanted???

As for the 30 min to 1 hr thing, I already said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

The idea is to get people logging in daily to do something. Then they may do something else with others (or solo) once they are already in the game. Its all about trying to retain active playerbase.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.) More players generally means more money. Nobody playing means no money.

Did you reply without reading anything I wrote?

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Well your right about leaning to quote a post properly. Sorry i only do this when at work so...yea not probably going to happen haha. But anyways, They do have login rewards currently as you should know. And i do think your right in part of what your saying. However I dont think it will make any difference. Because you unlike my first post on this are just saying you want something and not how to achieve it.

Actually, I wanted them to add regular events in this game and threea from GameForge already said in this thread that they will speak to the devs about adding events, so I sort of did achieve what I wanted.

I'm not trying to tell them HOW to make events. I just wanted them to make events. I don't think the devs need us to tell them how to make events since there are already so many events from so many games out there that they can get ideas from.

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And yes your right most mmos do have monthly events. However your wrong in thinking 30 min or 1 hr will make any diff. at all to people spending money.

In the very post you quoted, I said that the time spent doing the event itself doesn't have to generate revenue. Its about keeping the server alive with a healthy population. So that players don't leave due to empty servers and having nobody to play with. The only way they will make money is if players are actually logging into their game.

The idea is to get people logging in daily to do something. Then they may do something else with others (or solo) once they are already in the game. Its all about trying to retain active playerbase.

Events are a means to help retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game. (It is not the only means either.) More players generally means more money.

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Well your previous point was about fixing some of this game's problems (like players not logging in) through events. I just came and added layers of ideas upon that, like build upon the structure you have started. One thing leads to another. It's normal.

Also, it's not that much text and I've put some effort into writing it. If you don't want to transform this into a monologue for yourslef then do attempt to read it. You trying to win this argument on an empty stomach is actually what's not being productive.

Actually you're the one who started arguing with me. I was simply explaining why we need events (which is what this thread is about, go read the title).

You replied to me and pointed out that this game lacks content like it was some sort of counter-argument to what I was saying and I replied telling you that it is because the game lacks content that we need events even more (to draw people to login and playing).

Then you replied with your irrelevant "how to improve the game" post as another weird counter-argument even though it has nothing to do with the topic or what I was talking about.

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So you want me not to argue with you. Alright. Wonderful.

Also, as a last atempt to tl;dl, since you refuse to digest what I wrote.

If events happen to become a game's only lifeline, that game is 100% running on borrowed time. That's not a healthy approach on the long run (like, you see, the 2 ideas do intersect at some point). The stuff you like to call irrelevant came into existence because I don't want to believe that SW is going to die. I just want things to be fine. Well, who knows. Guess we'll live and see

At the moment we're kinda in the middle, which is not dead but not alive either.

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No I didn't say I didn't want you to argue with me, lol. You commented about me arguing. My reply was that I didn't start the argument, you did. In fact, you can feel free to argue with me as much as you like, though my replies may sometimes take a day or 2 depending on how busy I am.

As for events being the game's only lifeline, when did I say that? That's your problem, you have trouble understanding what you read, which is probably why all your posts are irrelevant to what we're discussing.

I was simply explaining why events are needed. Even in games with more content than this one, they have events to entice players to login. It is simply reality that most games cannot produce enough content to keep up with players. That's why events are needed.

If you take the time to read what people write and try to understand what they write, then you will not end up writing so many irrelevant things. And I wouldn't have to re-explain things to you over and over again.

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Dude, your one argument you keep hammering on is that what I said doesn't fit and thus it is irrelevant (even though you're wrong and you either know it and you're trolling me or your a bit ... dumb). You can't actually attack the main points and you know it, oterwise you would have done it by now. Like the argument hasn't progressed A BIT. We're not getting anywhere with this fiesta. For me it really feels like you keep taking advantage of the fact that you can't get punished for pretending to be incompetent.

Let's say you won. I litteraly can't wait to be part of the next easter event clone. That's gonna be fun! Oh boy! (jk the ester event was actually repulsive to say the least)

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That's your problem, you have no real main points unless you want to discuss things that are totally off-topic and irrelevant to this thread. I already suggested to you to make a new thread for that.

As for the topic of events, even in games with more content than this one, they have events to entice players to login. It is simply reality that most games cannot produce enough content to keep up with players. That's why events are needed.

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Just to answer to the original topic of this thread, we are discussing with the developer in order to bring more events into the game soon, so stay tuned!

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• I'm not saying events are irrelevant.
• The Easter event was garbage. So bad. Simply SO bad. imo GF needs to allocate more resources for their events.
• Having something to buy from the market is also a window towards making progress. At the moment Candus is dead in this sense.

Farming in this game also needs a tweak.

Like, the non-premium currency side of this game and the premium currency side of it need to be more interdependent. I feel that, at the moment, cashers don't really have a reason to cash in big amounts (and the release of primal is not going to change this).

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Now that I think about it, the balance between RNG and consistency is also screwed up. It's screwd up in the sense that, even if you load up with the intent of gearing up, you're likely to get very inconsistent results off your investment, all across the board (and this scares people off). Like, sure, you can convert fashion into raw money ... but then what?

One easy step in the right direction would be to remove the soulbound function completely, thus allowing vets to sell their already tuned-up items to newbies who would pay for them. Does this make sense to you? And there are a billion of things like this that need to be adjusted, you can't have a great game when you don't even have the basic elements.

We're talking about Events in the game (or lack thereof), not how to improve the game. Does that make sense to you? That wall of text you wrote is completely irrelevant to the topic or what I was talking about. If you want to talk about how you think you can improve the game, then start a new thread on that topic, lol.

I was talking about events and that most MMOs have monthly events to keep players logging in. The rewards are the carrots used to entice players to do the events. Other publishers do not make events with nice rewards as charity to players, but as a means to retain a healthy population playing so that they will spend money in the game.

WTF does your wall of text have to do with that?

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Well your previous point was about fixing some of this game's problems (like players not logging in) through events. I just came and added layers of ideas upon that, like build upon the structure you have started. One thing leads to another. It's normal.

Also, it's not that much text and I've put some effort into writing it. If you don't want to transform this into a monologue for yourslef then do attempt to read it. You trying to win this argument on an empty stomach is actually what's not being productive.

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Actually you're the one who started arguing with me. I was simply explaining why we need events (which is what this thread is about, go read the title).

You replied to me and pointed out that this game lacks content like it was some sort of counter-argument to what I was saying and I replied telling you that it is because the game lacks content that we need events even more (to draw people to login and playing).

Then you replied with your irrelevant "how to improve the game" post as another weird counter-argument even though it has nothing to do with the topic or what I was talking about.

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So you want me not to argue with you. Alright. Wonderful.

Also, as a last atempt to tl;dl, since you refuse to digest what I wrote.

If events happen to become a game's only lifeline, that game is 100% running on borrowed time. That's not a healthy approach on the long run (like, you see, the 2 ideas do intersect at some point). The stuff you like to call irrelevant came into existence because I don't want to believe that SW is going to die. I just want things to be fine. Well, who knows. Guess we'll live and see

At the moment we're kinda in the middle, which is not dead but not alive either.

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No I didn't say I didn't want you to argue with me, lol. You commented about me arguing. My reply was that I didn't start the argument, you did. In fact, you can feel free to argue with me as much as you like, though my replies may sometimes take a day or 2 depending on how busy I am.

As for events being the game's only lifeline, when did I say that? That's your problem, you have trouble understanding what you read, which is probably why all your posts are irrelevant to what we're discussing.

I was simply explaining why events are needed. Even in games with more content than this one, they have events to entice players to login. It is simply reality that most games cannot produce enough content to keep up with players. That's why events are needed.

If you take the time to read what people write and try to understand what they write, then you will not end up writing so many irrelevant things. And I wouldn't have to re-explain things to you over and over again.