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Yeah, on the server where everyone is getting +9s for free, their time is like 2 mins.
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They do it so more people are inclined to buy the ugly asian skin.
First, I'm sure a lot of people lack the ability to read, so they don't know they can get the skin for free. Second, chances you wouldn't buy it if you knew that you can get it by wasting 1 hour for 14 days in your life.
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Yeah but, why can't I just see how many coins I need for stuff. Why put the event clothes into the shop if I can buy it anyways.
Why do we get an ugly asian dress for a harvest event? I mean, I understand that for every single event ever we must have an ugly asian dress, but they are not even close to thematics.
And well, how do even the weapons look? What if you guys made like asian halloween theme weapon, would steal my time grinding those coins out.
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It's a Miracle they didn't wipe with 4 of the trash class in their team.
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Can we get those 3 skill SF buffs on Lilly that she got during her advancement?
Then her huge buffs that asian servers got a few months ago?
Then her buffs that came out like a month ago?
Plus I'm sure Lilly will get further buffs, so can we like speed them up too?
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Whoa, let's face it, the login rewards are trash.
You get 1 anti-destruction, 1 brooch fuser, 3 SD transmitters and 4 akashas for 28 days.
At least throw a strength extension ticket when you expect me to use 100 of those for a +8.
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We should get the NPC affection system everyone else has.
It sucks that even after 200 upgrade tries you are expected to only have a +7 primal weapon, meanwhile other servers can expect to +9 their weapon in less than 100 tries. Plus their primal gear can be upgraded 40 times without a strength extension ticket.
Dropping 100 euros just for the strength extension tickets to be stuck at +7 is bull and you know it too.
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I remember when I could anticipate some high quality costumes.
Now trash company puts every good costume into lootboxes.
They can suck a D and choke on it.
I actually never thought about it, cause i didn't like one so far, but i agree this is really bad.(Also lucky for Bunny costume, they probably sad they didn't had the opportunity to put them into rng boxes)
Not only the Bunny, we managed to get the animal maid costumes before lootbox garbage. Although they were testing the waters there, making them only available if you are the one buying them. I guess it didn't sell well enough, so they just put every quality skin into lootboxes ever since.
Like seriously, I've been wearing Bunny+Foxmaid Lilly combo every since trashforge didn't let me buy this years swimsuit and the grutin costumes.
Just let me throw 12k gold for 4 costumes and be okay with it.
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I remember when I could anticipate some high quality costumes.
Now trash company puts every good costume into lootboxes.
They can suck a D and choke on it.
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Keep the crit % and roll a boss damage and attackspeed on the loli weapon.
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So I've noticed this last week, but if you don't log into your character at all, you don't get the correct amount of bonus EP from the previous day's leftover.
Below you can see my Iris and one of my alt Lilly, I used neither of them this week. I should have 200 bonus energy on both of them, yet I only have 5 on Iris and 15 on my Lilly.
Kind of a shitty bug, loses me 20 tries on farming a golden chest today and 80 tries on the weekend.
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Scaredy Cat.
Is not that i didnt knew it but would hate to spend 2 days lvling up just for someone tell me that there was a better way.
I supposed that it would be like whit Sion set and we was missing 2 zones, but to be wrong you first have to assume, so wanted to corroborate.
Also i dont know everything, just know more than you.
Well, it doesn't exactly take 2 days to do some research, but I guess I have to agree, people that can't even compare 2 numbers and draw a sound conclusion shouldn't really look into these kind of things.
And well, I wouldn't actually say that assuming things is actual knowledge. It's more like being a haru players.
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OH my, our champion doesn't know that in each area, EP4 on manic can drop the set pieces? Each area giving a different one? Was he so good he never had to grind for the vica set? This obviously means that 2 pieces is unavailable as of right now.
For the exp question:
Junk Hive only if you are limited by energy.
Scaredy Cat EP 2 and 3 gives the most EXP/minute, twice as much as Junk Hive in fact. EP2 has a bit better exp/energy ratio, while EP3 having a bit better exp/minute ratio.
If you have around 700 energy to spend, but don't plan on standing still in Junk Hive for 16 hours, it's probably better to run Scaredy Cat.
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Display MoreSorry sir but you lack experience.
the most aspd you get the more spamm cast you can make hiting 4+ times whit a single skill, is a twich skill advanced lily player use. Also more tornadoes per plastica.
Adamant hard counters everyone sir.
base hp means that any % hp stat or buff gives more, to the point of my haru having 100k+ hp easyly while lily sits on the 50k.
If you need any aclaration or reference feel free to reply.
I don't feel that there are many people with as much experience on Lilly as I have.
And yeah, show me a single skill that hits more times thanks to attackspeed, other than Carnage, it won't.
How do you even have % hp buff, let alone 5000% base hp buff so that there is a 50k hp difference between the two classes. People don't even run % hp gear/cards. Even if they did, the difference between Haru and Lilly wouldn't be more than 3k hp.
It depends.......the both of you have good points. However the haru player is more correct. You do need attack speed if your trying to spam BP. The hp diff i think he is speaking of is due to how most the endgame lilly is stating. We really dont get that much hp unless ....well your the god of rolls on gear. and even then its still going to come down to us stacking crit damage (which i think everyone does. Dont know i have not tried much other than lilly).
As far as SF reduct. only character i know that benefit from that is Iris because of her skill. CDR?....ehh the skills on lilly CD's are so long im not sure anything more that BP makes a diff. Not to mention if you did roll CDR which stat would you give up?
I could be wrong however. So for me that leaves only attack speed, crit d., and hp if im lucky attack if im not. Its funny but the haru player is perfectly spot on with the hp. My lilly is exactly 50.4k XD lol Can i go higher? Sure but it would cost me XD. Look, m8.
You are a potato, never seen a gear in your life. What are you even talking about.
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i kinda think the whole discussion is alrdy off topic from what the OP asked
can't helped but noticed the heat is always on when the discussion involved haru and lily sometimes jin but other class seems like enjoying the peaceful acceptance
Well, other classes don't really have anything to whine about.
Iris and Erwin are both top damage dealers. With Iris simply having too high numbers on short cooldowns, and Erwin having like 5 skills scaling with attackspeed+he abuses the very balanced provoke brooch.
Lolies are just happy to heal, her ultimate is insane and has yet to be destroyed in a future balance patch.
Jins just accept the fact that they are useless in PVE and bs in PVP.
For Lilly and Haru, I think both sides complain that they are weak, meanwhile other mains claim that they are completely fine. Lilly is very weak outside of Plastica, while Haru is just a worse version of Iris and no reason to use her aside from the players liking ugly characters. And you know, as a Lilly main I'm quite salty that Haru gets everything first, advancement, buffs, all while Lilly has bigger issues than no super armour break Haru.
Plus Haru and Lilly are end of spectrums. Lilly being the sophisticated, you have to place well your skills vs faceroll Haru.
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1. Yes she does, saw countless times lily 2 shoting a 4man gc mob and instawiping the boss whit tornado spamm.
2. Noidea why are you hating on the server, actually i did check your server rank and most people wear aurith, the ones wearing pvp dont have perfect rolled stats nor the 16 lvl9 stones. Is like there people dont take pvp seriusly leting jins win whit the bug and wearing subpar gear.
Actually i bet the top 10 would pown pretty hard anyone in your server, if you want to take it more in a personal way, i would destroy you the "lily of candus" repeteadly and whiout much effort because i have the gear, the skill and the experience wich you dont.
Everyone knows that partial damage is a useless stat, no idea what are you talking about.
3. you are contradicing yourself on point 1, and blaming the character because your lack of knowledge.
4. 7 whit 100% 9 whit 140%+ simple math, you rlly should test it before assume.
5. This kind of stuff is what makes you look bad.
6. why do you even play Lily? you are complaining about every of her skills lol.
7. To be arrogant you first have to be good, wich you are showing that you are not.
Huh, why do you just assume that I'm but when you have no reason to.
You are the one who has 0 idea about Lilly, don't even know her skills, never looked at it. I get it, you are a Haru player, the class that needs 0 brain, that's only about rolling their face on the keyboard. But you should do something about making the whole Haru stereotype a bit better, you know.
Lilly can lower the weakest mob's hp alone to 50% with the Die-phoon combo, but that's all, you are drunk if you think she can kill stuff on her own, do you not see her numbers, are you blind? Plus how in the world do you counter my argument of Lilly having long cooldown weak skills by stating that she can 2-shot stuff? You have never seen a Lilly in your life, you don't know anything about Lilly, end of story.
Maybe you guys are not good enough to start running like 60% crit resist. People here do and you can't really crit them anymore. You can easily get your partial damage above 100%. Your server is just years behind.
I'm really not sure about the window where you can cancel the ability, you would still have to make a video of 9 Die-phoons, since I'm sure no one believes. Oh do mind the fact that you need a loli and you would have to go out of your way to have 180 stamina. Good luck. I've tested 130% attackspeed on Lilly, it's awful.
If you think that Deathly Triad magically becomes usable just because it's a 1.5 seconds long animation instead of 2 seconds, if you think that her ult is going to hit people due to shorter animation, be my guest and play attackspeed Lilly.
And sure, you might beat me in a 1v1, Haru is a nobrain class, you roll your face on the keyboard, cast everything instantly, dealing a billion damage. But I'm sure your crew can't even dream of an 8.5 mins GC clear.
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Display MoreUnlimited Lily is just good with BP (which doesn't work in upcoming content anymore, for example AoV is locked for active akashas) That's why you never see one.
Lily PvE (with bp) = ok, sometimes a bit broken, depends on content
Lily PvE (without bp) = worst damage beside a Jin on cooldown
Lily PvP = Trash
Haru PvE = actually good, later on some troubles with SAB (her weakness)
Haru PvP = Advance > top tier, without advance > okay
Oh Yagyu, it's super offtopic, but we want you in our guild, so join us, k thx.
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Jin has a bug whit shield+super armor brooch wich let him score points for free, dont take the ranking as a lead for character strength.
But then you said you are pvp champion but then again... you said dont take ranking as a lead for character strength
so you mean YOU = Any class you play > Jin or lily or any other class that you dont play
I am, as a player, the champion. It happens that i play Haru.
About the atack speed on lily, quoting a resume of what i got told:
Atack speed outweigths cdr because the following reasons,
- Lily has short cds in all skills except tornado
- faster normal atack
- faster animations helps whit lily static problems finishing faster the combo
- you can squize 2 more tornadoes in one plastica
- Cruel slash gets up to five hits making it a very damaging skill
(edit) also it seems there is 2 skills on the advancement wich scale whit aspd too.
makes sense for me.
My butt has short cooldowns except tornado.
Let's do a rundown on skill that that Lilly uses vs the skills that Iris uses:
Skill numbers for Lilly:
4: 270% damage on a 15 secs cd
5: 98% damage on a 16 secs cd
6: If the Lilly is godlike, she hits it 16 times dealing 554% damage on a 20 secs cd.
7: 564% damage on a 25% secs cooldown.
8: 883% damage on a 20 secs cooldown. But wait, godlike 150% attackspeed Lilly deals 1173% damage. Holy smokes, 1.5 autos worth of damage?!?!?! WORTH INVESTING INTO ATTACKSPEED.
9: 548% damage on 28 secs cd..
10: Best buff in the game.
11: 2300% damage on a 30 secs cd.
12: 1366% damage on a 35 secs cd.
13: 2273% damage on 45 secs cd.
Iris numbers for skills I use on her:
Skill 1: 2081% damage on 15 secs cd.
Skill 3: 1416 damage on 8 secs cd.
Skill 4: 1258% damage on 8 secs cd.
Skill 6: 2778 damage on 20 secs cd.
Skill 7: Haru tier buff in terms of uselessness.
Skill 8: 1959% damage on 20 secs cd.
Skill 10: 518% damage on 20 secs cd.
Skill 11: God knows how much damage, too much for Linogames to admit on 30 secs cd.
Skill 12: 1679% on 35 secs cd.
Skill 13: 3227% damage on 45 secs cd.
Just look at the numbers on the early skills. Lilly doesn't use a single ability below 15 secs cd, her first real abilitiy is Die-phoon. You can come and say that hey skill 1 and 3 have 10 and 8 cooldowns for Lilly, use them. Cool, 270% and 200% damage on them, barely stronger than a 200% basic attack.
You would have to not have a brain to state that Lilly has short and high damage cooldowns, or in your case, I have to assume that you have never seen a Lilly in your life, MR champion of great server of noname. I'm THE Lilly of the Candus server and in the best guild on the server, I should know more about Lilly, plus I believe I've seen the skill list a few times too. Also, your server might be a few years behind as people use partial damage as the main damaging tool.
If Lilly has 8 secs cooldown with 1000% damage, I would say it's fine, sure, Lilly has a good dps ability and A short cooldown. But she literally doesn't have a DPS ability. All her cooldowns are high and in the lowish end when comes to damage, except for Die-phoon.
I can cast 7 Die-phoons on 100% attackspeed, can make a video of it if you want to. Good luck casting 9, I would like to have evidence for that.
Faster animation doesn't matter as much in pvp as you think, but you shouldn't play Lilly there in the first place. Casting Triad is a death sentence, Die-phoon doesn't benefit from it, you don't hit anyone with carnage, her heal won't heal anything, skill 5 is already fast, can dodge out of skill 6, you won't finish Culling Blade anyways, you have to stand still for 1.5 sec with high attackspeed for 250% damage, no reason to speed it up. Taking 2 secs to finish your ult instead of 1.5 secs doesn't matter.
Whoever you are talking to doesn't play Lilly, or never read the skills, or just has the IQ of a rock.
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Sorry sir but you lack experience.
the most aspd you get the more spamm cast you can make hiting 4+ times whit a single skill, is a twich skill advanced lily player use. Also more tornadoes per plastica.
Adamant hard counters everyone sir.
base hp means that any % hp stat or buff gives more, to the point of my haru having 100k+ hp easyly while lily sits on the 50k.
If you need any aclaration or reference feel free to reply.
I don't feel that there are many people with as much experience on Lilly as I have.
And yeah, show me a single skill that hits more times thanks to attackspeed, other than Carnage, it won't.
How do you even have % hp buff, let alone 5000% base hp buff so that there is a 50k hp difference between the two classes. People don't even run % hp gear/cards. Even if they did, the difference between Haru and Lilly wouldn't be more than 3k hp.
95k whit a half tanky build, Jin gets 140k the same way. Base hp really makes the difference.
I dont play lili but will tell you the details about aspd when a guildmate logs
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Display MoreSorry sir but you lack experience.
the most aspd you get the more spamm cast you can make hiting 4+ times whit a single skill, is a twich skill advanced lily player use. Also more tornadoes per plastica.
Adamant hard counters everyone sir.
base hp means that any % hp stat or buff gives more, to the point of my haru having 100k+ hp easyly while lily sits on the 50k.
If you need any aclaration or reference feel free to reply.
I don't feel that there are many people with as much experience on Lilly as I have.
And yeah, show me a single skill that hits more times thanks to attackspeed, other than Carnage, it won't.
How do you even have % hp buff, let alone 5000% base hp buff so that there is a 50k hp difference between the two classes. People don't even run % hp gear/cards. Even if they did, the difference between Haru and Lilly wouldn't be more than 3k hp.
As a Lily player, do u have pvp problems?
Btw I saw a ranking list today.. I dont remember the name of the game mode. Rank1 was jin, then Lily from what i remember. So if it's the worse pvp class why she was ranked high?
Jin has a bug whit shield+super armor brooch wich let him score points for free, dont take the ranking as a lead for character strength.
Base hp doesn't do anything, you don't want % hp on any gear since standard +hp is superior in every way. Your gear has like 50k hp and 100% hp. So in the end Lilly would end up having 91k. You ain't getting 140k hp on Jin either. Most hp you get from gear is flat. 50k for Haru, 50k for Lilly. In the end, Haru having 4% more hp is not the deciding factor whether you consider her tanky or not.
As for the pvp question, it's not pvp. It's about attending and getting lucky so that people don't focus you.
